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+10Treesmurf Jimbob OrangeRakoon Balladeer The_Jaster JayMoyles masofdas The Cappuccino Kid ZeroJones Buskalilly 14 posters |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Fri 22 Apr 2016 - 20:32 | |
| Don't worry, you'll get the real one over the weekend. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Fri 22 Apr 2016 - 23:35 | |
| - The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
Jaster saying that Bloodborne has the best pigs when Hogs of War has been out for over fifteen years should result in a six hundred year ban from the forum. That can be arranged. In regards to Zelda vote chat, I'm actually happy to see Twilight Princess so highly ranked. I said in my comment that I'd been looking back on it a bit more fondly as of late, and I think it's starting to reach an age where it can be looked back on fondly if you enjoyed the game. Having said that, the OST is still mostly gash. |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Fri 22 Apr 2016 - 23:57 | |
| It's alright - when Jaster's great-great-great-granddaughter takes over his account, she can enjoy full use of GNamer. |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 0:00 | |
| And Nintendo will still be doomed. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 0:03 | |
| We'll all have to buy every Nintendo release to satiate Reggie-bot's bloodlust... and Mother 3 still won't have been released in the West. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 0:25 | |
| Number 1: Zelda II: The Adventure of LinkNES 75 last-minute points, 0 firstsThe Zelda game which, more than any other, unites GNamer. - You said:
"And in a surprising turn of events, with 75 last-minute points, in first place, it's... The Adventure of Link!
(forum burns to ground, natural order of things dissolves, the mutated form of Chris Scullion roams the wreckage, roaring/crying in madness and pain)"
"This is probably nostalgia: it was the first NES game I ever saw, and made any home computer games I had look like shit-sandwiches. However, in retrospect, it's a little obtuse, and deviates from what we would now call the "Zelda formula". But the music brings me back to my childhood, where I obsessed over this game; the title theme immediately sets of an internal gasp of adventure-y joy."
"One of them - The Adventure of Link - is genuinely mince, down there with the likes of Altered Beast and Super Thunder Blade for being completely gash. One of the worst games I've played."
"This really does not feel like a Zelda game. Side scrolling combat, a weird overworld, actual levelling up... There's always the big “is Zelda an RPG?” debate, but this is absolutely an RPG, without question. And I really like it! The combat is surprisingly tactical – squaring off against Iron Knuckles, working whether to attack high or low and blocking their hits in return is really rewarding, and deciding where to put your next level towards really makes your progress feel worthwhile. It's still a bit guff – platforming sections can bugger off – but I rate this one."
- I say:
I was going to do the Game and Watch game as my joke winner, but then there was the whole chat about Zelda II and when I asked my special guest for comment on their favourite, this is the one they said!
- They said:
Chris Scullion says:" It may divide opinion – and that's a polite way of saying loads of people think it's shite – but I've always legitimately had a love for Zelda II: The Adventure Of Link. It's the only canon side-scrolling Zelda game (we don't talk about THOSE ones) and it's the only one where Link gains XP. When it starts it's one of the most difficult games you'll play but as you build Link up you feel yourself getting more powerful as he does. It may have looked basic and the odd translations may have made the story a little disjointed, but I genuinely felt more attached to Zelda II Link than any other in my life."
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 0:57 | |
| - TCK wrote:
- 3. Jaster saying that Bloodborne has the best pigs when Hogs of War has been out for over fifteen years should result in a six hundred year ban from the forum.
SHIT! - Jay wrote:
- That can be arranged.
SHIT! |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 19:05 | |
| - Drunkalilly wrote:
- Number 1: Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
AT LAST. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 13:12 | |
| Right, here you go then, I suppose. Number 1: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind WakerGamecube, Wii U 68 points, 3 firstsA shocking turn of events. Everybody knew it. Wind Waker is GNamer's number 1 Zelda. I tried to create some suspense by dragging it out with joke winners and not giving you the 3D top 3 but you all knew this was winning before I even posted Hyrule Warriors. - You said:
"If you ignore the triforce hunt this is a wonderful world to explore with a great set of dungeons and items."
"The story of the little boy who left Outset Island (extraordinarily well-named place, wouldn't you say?) and came back a man, armed to the teeth and ready to kick ass after sailing the Great Sea to hell and back. The cast is charming and the tale actually brutal. Finally, the elements of the final boss battle are the best in the series."
"I wasn't one of the people who whined about the cartoony graphics at the time; any new Zelda, after the era-changing N64 games, was very welcome. At the time, I might've been a bit down on the game itself; after Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, it felt like it was re-using a lot of the ideas that those games had introduced. But what I didn't appreciate then (and I do now) is how much more character the game has, in both the major story elements, and the little details on the characters and the environment. Some of the side bits are a bit disappointing (oh good, this square has another reef in it..) but there's a hell of a lot to see here."
"They say your first Zelda will likely be your favourite - in this instance, it's absolutely true. Wind Waker was my first exposure to Zelda - I'd seen Link and Zelda in Smash Bros., and now I wanted to explore their world in earnest. What unfolded was a beautiful journey - sod what people say about the seafaring exploration... I bloody loved it. There's something truly exciting about seeing the silhouette of an island pop up on your horizon and then hopping off your boat to see what lies on said island. It still holds up graphically today and in retrospect, I don't see anything wrong whatsoever with the change from “realistic” Zelda to cel-shading. Factor in some of the best tracks in the whole series and you've got a classic Zelda game, and my personal favourite."
"Was it ever in doubt what would be my Number 1 game that in my Top 10 games of all-time and I've voted highly in other votes that my first Zelda remains the best, due to it's charm."
"One of the best Zelda "experiences", even if it drops the ball a bit on gameplay. The Fast Sail of the HD version was ever so welcome, as were other tweaks, but they couldn't hide where dungeons had been stripped out. But as well as being absolutely beautiful, having the most expressive characterful Link (and Ganondorf) of any Zelda, and inspiring a real sense of adventure, it's the only game in the series to feature a giant friendly pig. That alone makes it a must-play."
"A piece of art in every sense of the word, from the beautiful graphics to the brilliant story it tells, I enjoyed every moment (yes even the Triforce Hunt). It might throw the usual Zelda formula out the window with islands to discover rather than galloping across a vast field but it helps add so much more character to the game, every island is unique which is what makes this so special, there's always something new to see and when that something new is painted in such a lovely picture you have the bext Zelda game yet."
- I say:
A thoroughly deserving winner. For my part, I didn't play it much on Gamecube, but when the Wii U version arrived I sat down and sunk hours into it. What a beautiful game, in every sense of the word. Tugging at the heart strings almost as much as a tree, Link's face is so full of expression the player is pulled along on the adventure in a very meaningful way.
There were stretches of the game that felt a little directionless, but sailing the seas and exploring for the sake of it is such a lovely experience, and so rewarding in and of itself, I was content to just stumble across the story on the open water.
The graphics are a testament to the power of art direction over fidelity, the music is wonderful and the combat is so visceral. How very NGamer of us to award first prize to the game the world expected to be an oddity and a misstep.
- They said:
John Cena says:" Sometimes, just because you know the winner is coming the journey can still be fun, and the victory can still be something to celebrate. Plus, people forget how hard Wind Waker worked to get where it is, and how much the kids love it. This metaphor is stretching thin. I should have tried harder to get a real quote for number one."
I'll give you the top three 3D and the honourable mentions eventually. Don't hold your breath |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 13:31 | |
| The game at the top of the (Deku) tree is revealed at last - unless there's another shocking swerve in store! Fabulous game, more than worthy winner. Should have mentioned in my comment that I love the contrast between the cute cel-shaded aesthetic and the absolute brutality of combat. Part of Drunka's I Said bit there hits home, too - good man, well said. (You'll know what I mean when you see it) In fact all round. Great vote. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 16:09 | |
| You mean it's not really Adventure of Link?! |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 17:48 | |
| There could only be one, and I'm chuffed to see that it's Wind Waker. My first Zelda, as mentioned in my comment, and still my favourite. Top stuff. I'm assuming the Top 3D Zeldas list is in the same order as the vote again. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 20:01 | |
| Dam close vote though the Top 3 games, I hop we get to see the rest of the voting in all the category's like where did Links Awakening place for instance.
Some stats if you Combined Top 10 of GNamer and SONM
Joint 10th Hyrule Warriors and Phantom Hourglass Joint 9th Four Swords Adventure and Link’s Awakening 8th Minish Cap 7th A Link to the Past 6th A Link Between Worlds 5th Majoras Mask 4th Skyward Sword 3rd Twilight Princess 2nd Ocarina of Time 1st Wind Waker
Only Minish Cap and Wind Waker placed the same in both votes.
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 21:37 | |
| Some stats if you Combined Top 10 of GNamer and SONM and The Cappuccino Kid
Joint 10th Four Swords Adventure and Link’s Awakening 9th Minish Cap 8th A Link to the Past 7th A Link Between Worlds 6th Majoras Mask 5th Skyward Sword 4th Twilight Princess 3rd Ocarina of Time 2nd Wind Waker 1st Point Blank 2
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I've got five copies of Wind Waker, do you know *acts all smug*. I've never got into it though. That first dungeon always put me off, with it's stealth, and greyness, and...pots. Tired it in 2006, tried it again a year later, and tried it again when I got it on Wii U for free with Mario Kart 8, and it just didn't happen for me. That goes for pretty much all the Zeldas: I've tried all of them in the top ten bar Link Between Worlds, but I just wasn't into any of them except Ocarina. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 21:40 | |
| - masofdas wrote:
- Some stats if you Combined Top 10 of GNamer and SONM
Joint 10th Hyrule Warriors and Phantom Hourglass Joint 9th Four Swords Adventure and Link’s Awakening 8th Minish Cap If Zero was doing that, HW and PH wouldn't place. |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 23:40 | |
| Damn straight! |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 9:42 | |
| Best Zelda wins and the worst Zelda doesn't place even as a joke? All is right with the world. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 11:14 | |
| Which one are you thinking of as worst? |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 11:40 | |
| Phantom Hourglass. To be fair I haven't played Adventure of Link, but out of the Zelda's I've played Hourglass is by far the worst retrospectively. Even ignoring the atrocious dungeon constantly repeated through the course of the game there's the cheapness of the general productions, dungeons use the same incredibly dreary music and the overworld reuses the same few themes as well. The game simply feels like a very early prototype rather than a properly polished and refined product. |
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 12:57 | |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 13:42 | |
| Fair enough. I think PH is the worst of the Zeldas I've completed, but I wouldn't call it a bad game. A bit forgettable. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 14:49 | |
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 16:06 | |
| The train track overworld starts fun but literally made me stop playing on the way to the final dungeon it's just so repetitive and padded.
PH gives you a whole ocean to freely explore while Spirit Tracks literally railroads you on linear tracks. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: The Best Legend of Zelda Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 17:12 | |
| Aye spirit tracks is a load of pish, I beat the game and I can't even remember anything of note that happened in it. |
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