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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 1 May 2018 - 19:56

Seeing as folk seemed to enjoy those photos from PlayStation Power, I dug out a handful of other old gaming magazines for youse to have a butchers at. Rest assured, there's plenty of absolute belters that I'll show youse soon, with horsings that arguably surpass those of PlayStation Power. However, for now, I'll let you have a look at something that I consider to be more interesting, and I hope you do too. From summer 1999, it's Issue 1 of Planet Game Boy, the sister magazine of N64 Magazine.

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For those of you who don't remember (or weren't around for this era in gaming), Planet Game Boy started off as a magazine-within-a-magazine, in the middle of N64 Magazine, with quickie previews and reviews of upcoming Game Boy and Game Boy Colour games and accessories. It's not what N64 Magazine is best remembered for, but it was a segment that I enjoyed nonetheless. I was surprised to see a spinoff magazine launched in 1999, with no fanfare, just sitting on my local newsagent shelf. With many of the same writing staff, a similar style and tone and even with Worldy Bloke, it was definitely in keeping with the spirit of N64 Magazine. 

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The humour was much the same too, as seen in the big Pokemon guide that they published.

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The reviews were comparatively direct and concise, but well-written and easy-going to read...

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...and, of course, true to the N64 Magazine way, plenty of games were torn a new arsehole.

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I always wondered how these magazines used to divvy up their reviews. Do you think Kittsy asked to review all the games that you could see were going to be completely bollocks from a mile away? Any ideas?

There was also a load of other features, such as a walkthrough...

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...a retrospective...

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...and a battery guide, of all things. Taking over four hours to catch a Pikachu - shite!

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I thoroughly enjoyed reading Planet Game Boy in this guise. Sadly, it only lasted one more issue before they changed the layout of it for the much, much worse, and it couldn't have seen another half-dozen issues before it was nothing but a memory. But a memory that I hope you enjoyed sharing with me!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 1 May 2018 - 20:10

If this doesn't win thread of 2018 off the back of Cappa's efforts alone, there is no justice.

I actually had PGBs one and two. I didn't know it went on at all after that, although it sounds like I didn't miss much. The bad reviews are still the best bit - I can't believe Sit On A Drawing Pin didn't get a sequel.

They really didn't know much about Pokémon at all, did they? Bumcheeks being the Bulbasaur, Tail Whip decreasing attack, Snorlax having a sleepy move... Ah well, they made up for it in entertainment value. Top stuff!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 1 May 2018 - 21:44

Man alive, look how young Greener looked in those pictures!

I bet each editor Kittsy worked for realised that he was unparalleled in putting the boot into a game, hence why he got the lion's share of the shite to play. Kittsy describing how games have personalities much like people is legendary though - "Some are generally okay, but might have an unsavoury side bubbling under the surface, like Game and Watch Gallery or Gary Lineker." Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyThu 3 May 2018 - 21:02

HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THAT LINE-UP - Adam Technical Editor of Amstrad Action Waring, Jim Many Many Awards MacAuley, Robin Gamesmaster for a decade Alway - and then Greener and Kittsy and Jes and Weaver and Bickham 2.0. Those were the days. Cappa, this has made my day reading through these. Even round Photobucket's Sponsored Ads.

I was going to say they don't make them like that any more, but looking at the fight photo set, I realise that the current GM editor was messing around in cardboard boxes on the back page, waiting for Labo. So I guess they do!

And even the font makes me feel nostalgic. As does Kittsy's shit game reviews. And now I am sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyThu 3 May 2018 - 21:18

Love this. I remember seeing the adverts for Planet Gameboy in N64 Magazine but never picked it up. A very different time - a magazine dedicated to a portable system? Madness! The late 90s often saw Rampage games despite them being widely panned EVERY time.

On a related note, if anyone is interested in old magazines - feel free to contribute to the magazinesfromthepast.wikia.com page. It's mostly scores and it's far from complete, but it's a good reference point for checking specific issues.

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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptySun 13 May 2018 - 11:49

Thanks for your kind words since my last post - it’s nice to know that folk are enjoying these. There’s more to come, and here’s one today:

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That’s Nintendo Official Magazine UK from November 2004. Future PLC revamped this loads of times before they eventually retired in 2014, which I did not feel was a particularly massive loss to gaming print media in the UK. I always felt that NOM, ONM, MON, MOM, NNN or whatever they called it was a bit too safe and unadventurous with it's reviews, previews, interviews and news. Like most of us here, I was a NGamer guy. Still, it wasn't without merit, and I thought this was a decent issue.




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It kicks off with all sorts of excitement about the DS, which was coming out in North America soon. I thought the idea of the DS "causing a gaming revolution" was complete bollocks at the time, but, of course, that's the official magazine talking. I personally thought the PSP was going to maul the DS, and it looked that way well after the DS came out too.




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The big review was for Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, which some would argue they underrated at 91%. Not me, though. Donkey Konga and FIFA 2005 are two of the other GameCube reviews in there, and they're perfectly all right. Nothing too challenging, and reasonably informative.




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The previews are similarly straightforward, with all sorts of hype for the DS' launch. Pictochat gets a lot of coverage throughout the magazine, and it's here too. I had quite a lot of fun with that with my mates when the DS was new - it's quite an underrated feature of the system, I feel.




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You also had NOM UK looking ahead to upcoming first-party releases, generously donating a full page to the ugly-as-sin Yoshi's Universal Gravitation. They think it's going to be quite good...!




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Elsewhere, you've got a Big In Japan feature:

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Reader's mail:

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Something about a Donkey Konga event (the type of event that never came anywhere near Scotland):

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And Wario's Brain Buster, which isn't bad fun at all!

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Hope you enjoyed that! I've got quite a few old issues of NOM/ONM from between 1998 and 2012, and I'll chat about those sometime soon. Next time, something different.  Thumbs Up!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptySun 13 May 2018 - 23:01

That Hyrule Champions fighting game that was suggested in the mailbag feature really reminded a lot of Hyrule Warriors. I think the fact it was rather to see a classic Kittsy ravaging (or something of that calibre) in the official mag was why I gravitated towards the unofficial variants. Couple that with writing that genuinely felt it had a lot more character to it and you had me as a subscriber for quite some time.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 14 May 2018 - 12:41

Loving this, Cappa! Making me excited for the day, whenever it comes, that I am reunited with my NOMs, ONMs and GNamers.

I don't know if I mentioned it here, but you know that "Big in Japan" section you showed? I went through my whole stack and reread all of those in January before I flew out here.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 14 May 2018 - 13:33

I'm also loving this, but I do think it's one of the weaker ones you've posted so far.  Not your fault, natch, and if nothing else it provides an interesting point of comparison.  It's just not as funny, either as the others or as it thinks it is.  '...gives boring RPGs a fireball up the ass!'? Duh!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 14 May 2018 - 22:57

It's a little bit regrettable that I threw out a lot of other old magazines, and some of what I've got left isn't particularly amusing. But if what's left is an interesting point of comparison then that's all right by me.  I'll probably stick up a few N64/NGC Magazines in between the random stuff for good measure though.  Thumbs Up!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 15 May 2018 - 19:32

That was pretty cool, seeing that - given than NOMONM was "the enemy" at the time! Definitely much less "shill-y" than the copy I have during the N64 era.

Please carry on Cappa - I can offer a shit old Amstrad Action or Total!, but that's about it!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 15 May 2018 - 21:03

Thanks folks, and please do, Jimbob! I've got a decent variety of old magazines, but no Amstrad Action, or Total!. I'd love to see any old magazines youse have got  Thumbs Up!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyWed 16 May 2018 - 8:18

The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
It's a little bit regrettable that I threw out a lot of other old magazines, and some of what I've got left isn't particularly amusing. But if what's left is an interesting point of comparison then that's all right by me.  I'll probably stick up a few N64/NGC Magazines in between the random stuff for good measure though.  Thumbs Up!

Oh definitely, please keep sticking them up! If nothing else it's a nice jaunt down Memory Lane, as well as the whole comparison thingy.

I do remember it getting less shilly as it went on, and less 'wannabe cool', but I don't think it truly got funny until Castle took over all too briefly. Aww!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 21 May 2018 - 21:32

Yeah, do eet! I'm a few days away from being able to contribute; it's taken me a long time to scan in the first Amstrad Action, and I need to correct / rotate a lot of stuff (it's older than a lot of you guys)
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptySat 26 May 2018 - 13:22

Bought some discs on ebay for 6 quid and they include scans of all issues of Super Play, Arcade and Official Sega Saturn Magazine.

Can share them here if of interest...
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptySat 26 May 2018 - 16:14

There's always interest here, I'd say. Thumbs Up!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptySun 27 May 2018 - 11:57

Definitely, please do! I've got very little familiarity with Super Play or Official Sega Saturn Magazine, and I was a massive fan of Arcade.

By coincidence, the June '99 issue of Arcade was the next old magazine I was going to post about, but instead I'll stick up something else later on. 👍
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 28 May 2018 - 10:52

Amstrad Action - Issue 71 - August 1991
The first AA I bought. At this time, the Amstrad was technically obsolete, with Amigas/PCs/NESes/Megadrives ruling the roost. But because of the relative cheapness, these old PCs hung on until the mid-90s. AA's readership count actually went up in this period. Sorry it's a bit battered.
However, this has made me get the Amstrad emulator working again. Talk about games you'll play For a Little While...

I went too far again and don't know how to edit myself, so a load of stuff is in spoilers to save endless scrolling:
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 28 May 2018 - 17:10

Corking post there, although it does feel like it contains most of the magazine! Shocked Still, top stuff. Some funny bits, too - the Hero Quest 'Pick your hero' isn't quite NGamer, but I appreciated the effort.

If nothing else, those letters were an awful lot more civil than today's article comments - probably because they were able to ignore the muppets who chose to spend the postage fee on death threats, and probably because that small barrier to entry meant people thought, 'Is what I'm writing going to make me look like a total cretin?' a bit more before taking their mutterings down to Ye Poste Boxxe.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyMon 28 May 2018 - 20:24

That was a brilliant post, sharp and really insightful. Stuff like the Amstrad is of interest, and while I didn't get to experience that period of gaming, I'm eager to learn more. 

Plus, that post absolutely horses anything I could do!
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue 29 May 2018 - 21:25

The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
Plus, that post absolutely horses anything I could do!
That is incorrect, good sir - but I do thank y'all for reading it.

It does seem like there's an entire era of games that is just going to disappear from history - it's slightly self-inflicted, mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyWed 30 May 2018 - 13:58

Wowsers. Some smashing contributions in here - there was an interesting piece on the Amstrad in Retro Gamer recently with contributions from Alan Sugar himself. Fascinating to hear the Amstrad was popular into the mid-90s. I've always been fascinated by the latter years of a system that is long past it's heyday - the Master System was one that I recall seeing in Argos catalogues pretty much up until the year 2000.

I found these two in my loft yesterday:

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I've toyed with the idea of a site or wiki that has every NGamer/NGC/N64/Super Play/Total! review or score - this could be a good place to start.
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PostSubject: Re: Old Magazine Chat   Old Magazine Chat - Page 3 EmptyWed 30 May 2018 - 20:04

I'd love to see some excerpts from those here if you fancy posting them GJones! Grin
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Yuss! The amount of work that must've gone into those books would've been incredible.
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Jimmer's post from the Amstrad magazine reminded me to forward a link to this here Twitter account which has been posting pages from late 80s/early 90s UK computer mags. There's been a couple of pages from the CVG mag and some other points of interest there.

Seconding the desire to see some snippets from those NGamer compilation books!
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