I'd have called them chazzwazzas (Games that shouldn't be called that)

I was going to do a article on Gintendo about games which use a name in a series but don't feel part of the series. This came up due to Metal Gear Survive announcement, Metroid Prime: Federation Force coming out this Friday and Star Fox Adventures being talked about in simply the best.

I've said before and I'll say it again I like SF:A but I know a lot of you don't like it as it's not a Star Fox game, that if it was called Dinosaur Planet we wouldn't be having this chat.

A big one for me is Resident Evil, me and Andy have been in disagreement on the series for ages as to me the series should be like RE:Z, RE, RE2, RE3, Code and a odd few others where Andy I know likes RE5 maybe even RE6 to me that's not Resident Evil but a okay third person shooters with Resident Evil name and characters slapped on them.

Same now goes for MP:FF, long time fans may not like it but there is bound to be someone this will be there first Metroid game and like it.

I know Nintendo have said in the past they come up with ideas then put a IP to that idea and we get stuff like Kirby Epic Yarn, that not all these games are bad or wrongly named but some do spoil the series.

Do you have any other games you think were named something for a quick buck looking at you Konami and should be called something else and any games that worked being part of a series.

Besides the aforementioned Starfox Adventures, the only other game I can think of would be Super Mario Bros. 2 which is reskin with Mario characters. Although, I'd hardly call that a lazy cash-grab as it's a solid title and well ingrained in the Mario series now, what with the Shy Guys and Birdo popping up in later titles.

That is a good one jay, and doesn't feel like a cash grab.

It's not out yet, but... Horizon Zero Dawn is a bad name for what looks like a very neat game. It doesn't really mean anything, and any of the words could be in any order. I Googled it to make sure I got it right, and nearly forgot in the process of changing tabs back.

We all know it should be called "Revenge of the Robosaurs 3000"

I'm already planning to buy it, but I'd buy two copies if it had that name.

Well it's called Horizon with the subtitle of Zero Dawn and I'm guessing Sony wants this to be a new series.

True, but you and someone in Sony's office are the only people that actually know that.

Number of times I've tried to type that (mostly in unfavourable comparison to the comprehensibly named Breath of the Wild) and had to check my words and order...

Lylat Wars should never have been called that.

I'll leave this here.

What's the hit song Kids in Termina

Tagline surely

We'll struggle to fit all that in a taggers, to be fair... but we will see what we can do.

Kids in Termina by Kim Breath of the Wilde, coming soon to GNamerbury...?

I was thinking that the lyrics wouldn't fit. Very happy to put the idea in some form up top.

Given that the CastleMetroidvanialike debate has reared its ugly head in the Axiom Verge thread recently, I thought it would be the right time to reopen a can of worms: it should never have been called Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. It should just have been Yoshi's Island. The longer title might lead people to believe that they can expect very SMW-like gameplay, which of course Yoshi's Island does not have. Very much a misstep.

Another one: Paper Mario: Sticker Star. If that had been made to star Kirby or Mallo or almost literally anyone else and not have it under the Paper Mario umbrella, it would not have had the backlash that it did. I may have said that before.

It's a fair point, Zero, although we'd then have started moaning about the lack of a Paper Mario game since SPM. (The same will, I'm sure, apply to Colour Splash: we'll probably rate it less harshly because we know what's coming.)

A good one Zero as when we did the Mario vote, I was pro Super MARIO World 2: Yoshi Island should have been allowed as yes now we think of it as a Yoshi game but back then we knew know different as it was a new Mario game to likely to help sell the game to people of the back of the name and much easier way to introduce a new series.

The same applies now back when SMB2 was released we would likely not known it was Doki Doki Panic but now we do and that was allowed in the Mario vote, crazy.

This came to me last night when reading one of gJones books he got me and whilst watching Kinda Funny, why wasn't Final Fantasy VII called Final Fnatasy IV.

If you think about it surely it should have been as
Final Fantasy came to USA and didn't do well that the next two didn't come to the NES
Final Fantasy II didn't make it to the west
Final Fantasy III didn't make it to the west
Final Fantasy IV did make it to the USA but not to confuse things was named Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy V didn't make it to the west as it was to hard for us westerners
Final Fantasy VI did make it to the USA but not to confuse things was named Final Fantasy III

Then you come to FFVII which was the fourth Final Fantasy to come to USA and was the first to be released in Europe yet it was called Final Fantasy VII not Final Fantasy IV for the yanks or Final Fantasy: The Something for us Europeans.

It does seem weird to me as back in 1997 it wouldn't been like today where something is announced for Japan we know about it right away, we would have only found out by reading magazines and yeah some would have touched on importing Final Fantasy III for the SNES from the states but for most of us Europeans FFVII would have been are first taste of the series which why I think a lot view FF a PlayStation series and seems rather weird why they kept the same name as Japan in the west for FFVII and going forward.

Of course nearly all the FF games are out in the west in some form and we know what game FFVI is when people are talking about and when their talking about FFIII

FFVI was released as FFVI on disc for the original PlayStation in the West - I know this because I bought it (never got very far; went awry early on, kept dying, gave up). As for why FFVII made it westwards with its original name, I reckon it's because the rise of the Internet meant that more people were learning that what they were calling FFIII wasn't really the third Final Fantasy game. Maybe Square just wanted to ditch the charade? I bet you can find out if you ask Siri or Google or something.

Yeah all since have been released in the west as proper number FFIII is on DS for instance.

Who really used the Internet in 1997 though?

I just assumed they realised what a headache they were going to have if they had to rename every FF game from now until the end of time!

Well you just to minus three each time, so Final Fantasy XV would be Final Fantasy XII if they continued bringing them all over after Final Fantasy VII.

And in Europe, FFVII would be called Final Fantasy. And we would have just had FFIX, which is known as FFXII in the US, and FFXV in Japan. And I think FFV in Korea. It's bad enough listening to an American describe a SNES Final Fantasy game, and pedantically explain "by which I mean actually Final Fantasy VI". Madness I say! Madness!

Sure is, I would like to go back to 1997 as someone that cared about FF then and been in Europe and maybe going where are the other six games or in North America and being a fan and go huh where's 4-6.