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Balladeer wrote:

If they can throw in some online-specific eShop sales as well

I'm fairly sure this is already a thing they've announced.

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Yeah they did and OR wasn't happy about it as we talked about it in regards to PSN as in if you didn't pay would we all get the sale benefit etc

It'll be neat to get a few sessions on the online-enabled free titles, at least. I can't see them being something I'll return to time and time again, but I could see half an hour being killed with a bit of co-op Mario Bros..

Balloon Fight is the big one that I reckon most will enjoy early days.

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Aye, it'll be a treat getting to play that against actual human beings as opposed to the computer.

Yaaaaaaay... I must admit I don't get it. Not unless they've upgraded the original gameplay too.

Treesmurf wrote:

Balladeer wrote:

If they can throw in some online-specific eShop sales as well

I'm fairly sure this is already a thing they've announced.

Oh! Oh good then. It does, of course, depend on how frequent these are, what games are on offer, and how much they're discounted by. Club Nintendo hasn't been a shining example of excellence on that front.

The eshop sales have been decent so far, I hope the good deals don't suddenly all become subscriber exclusive

How are we talking about the crappy cloud save coming?

Because it's all still rumours at this point?

As in what part? If it's saying on Nintendo's website Splatoon 2 wouldn't be cloud saves, not sure what the rumor part is.

Is Splatoon 2 not all server side anyway? I genuinely don't know, but I thought that your progress in online shooters is normally saved server side so you could sign in as yourself on a totally new device (in theory) and still have all your progress.

I don't think so, especially with Nintendo.

masofdas wrote:

As in what part? If it's saying on Nintendo's website Splatoon 2 wouldn't be cloud saves, not sure what the rumor part is.

Pretty much all of it because the cloud save function hasnt been officially detailed yet, I just think some folk are getting annoyed without having the full picture first.

I guess but why update the website and put this game doesn't support cloud saves.

Because it probably doesn't? I don't think it's that necessary for Splatoon anyway, for me I'll want it more for games I know I'm going to put a lot of time into like MH or for BotW where losing my save would probably make me cry.

Can I confirm that whenever we all have to click a button three times to wake up our Switch, that we all go for the obvious choice: ZR? If you aren't choosing the clown nose noise every time then you might be a monster.

The_Jaster wrote:

Because it probably doesn't? I don't think it's that necessary for Splatoon anyway, for me I'll want it more for games I know I'm going to put a lot of time into like MH or for BotW where losing my save would probably make me cry.

I think it's a load of crap if true which from the website you'd think yes, I would be furious if something like Overwatch I lost all my stuff because it wasn't part of the cloud and on Switch Pokemon not having it is a huge deal, bet it's to get people to use Pokemon Bank or something.

Seems like Nintendo life already confirmed it with this recent FAQ.

Nintendo life wrote:

To be perfectly clear here, Nintendo is stating that cloud saving will be available with every single game, though it's up to the developers to enable it.

Our current understanding is that your save will automatically upload to the cloud when you finish playing, and that when you start playing again the game will simply download the cloud save. If your internet goes a bit wobbly during this progress, your Switch will default to the newer save, preventing you from losing progress. There also doesn't seem to be any limits in terms of save data size or number of save files.

HOWEVER, and this is a pretty huge however, certain games won't ever support cloud saves – and that includes FIRST PARTY NINTENDO GAMES. The reason for this, according to Nintendo, is to avoid cheating. Games that we currently know that won't support cloud saving include:

Splatoon 2
Dark Souls: Remastered
FIFA 19

Nintendo's justification for this is that it wants to prevent players, effectively, rolling back negative changes in persistent games, or to regain items that they traded to other players, or to revert to a higher online multiplayer ranking.

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I definitely get it but sometimes you just have to take the bad with the good and there is a lot of good in there.

Rum Rapture wrote:

Can I confirm that whenever we all have to click a button three times to wake up our Switch, that we all go for the obvious choice: ZR? If you aren't choosing the clown nose noise every time then you might be a monster.

I keep forgetting that the buttons make different noises and just mash the A button. Sorry. (checks self for horns and tentacles)

I think all the front-facing buttons make the same noise, but ZL and ZR are different. And ZR is the best. Honk honk!

They make different noises? What?!
I've been using the A button since launch, so this was news to me.

As for the cloud saving nonsense, I would have assumed that there'd be something server-side to check the validity of your save data matches when you last were logged in playing the game or something along those lines. How does it work on other platforms for multiplayer games?

The multiplayer thing is actually crazy. As far as I'm aware the only game I've ever played that didn't hold the multiplayer data server side is RDR - and that was one of the worst things to ever happen. When I lost all the save data on my PS3 I lost my Prestiged RDR character and it put my right off the game. There's no excuse to hold online data on the save file.

The Dark Souls thing is the closest thing to acceptable there, but frankly that's up to the player if they want to roll back to an earlier save as far as I'm concerned. There's not even something like system wide achievements attached to it, so why does it matter if a player wants to do this? It's only affecting their own personal experience. PS counters this to some degree anyway by only allowing 1 upload a day. Sure if you're really patient you can abuse that system, but it's a pretty negligible case.

Classic case of Nintendo nonsense here if that's true...

JayMoyles wrote:

They make different noises? What?!
I've been using the A button since launch, so this was news to me.

What the hell guys? This is totally unacceptable. I'm on the brink of leaving the forum for aeons again in disgust.

JayMoyles wrote:

They make different noises? What?!
I've been using the A button since launch, so this was news to me.

As for the cloud saving nonsense, I would have assumed that there'd be something server-side to check the validity of your save data matches when you last were logged in playing the game or something along those lines. How does it work on other platforms for multiplayer games?

I think it varies game to game, but a fair few you can still save scum anyway like in MH World when re-rolling decorations folk not only use the cloud save to save scum they've figured out the drops have a pattern so you can know exactly when you will get a certain decoration. (The auto save is meant to prevent this but doesn't)

It sucks if true but it's Nintendo just eliminating the possibility of this the hard way.

Rum Rapture wrote:

JayMoyles wrote:

They make different noises? What?!
I've been using the A button since launch, so this was news to me.

What the hell guys? This is totally unacceptable. I'm on the brink of leaving the forum for aeons again in disgust.

I like clicking in the sticks for the wake up.

That makes a bit more sense, I suppose. I know Nintendo are going to get slammed for it though - some would say rightfully so, perhaps.