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| Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting!  Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 17:53 | |
| Due to me giving possibly insufficient warning, and Stu not being online to vote, I am extending the deadline by three hours. Deadline for Wiik 1 is now 9 o'clock.
However, I am going to start Wiik 2 now, which will be hopefully a slightly easier genre to vote for: RPGs! Deadline will be in a week's time, at 6 p.m. Sunday 24th March. For real this time. Some possibly controversial decisions about what's in and what's out (copied from the OP):
In:
Super Paper Mario: Yes, after pondering this over I've come to the realisation that I remember SPM far more for its story, tasks and bosses than I do for its lacklustre platforming.
Muramasa: Wikipedia calls it an "action RPG". We don't have an "action" week, only an "adventure" one, so RPG it is!
Monster Hunter: By popular consensus.
Out:
Zelda games: They're adventure. Yes they are.
Okami: Because it's Zelda-ish, despite the secluded battle arenas.
Both:
Little King's Story: After much wrangling, it's been decided that the main vote will keep LKS in "strategy/other"; however, I'm also tallying the votes for if it's an RPG. Feel free to vote under both systems, and I'll let you know how the final tally would differ!
Discussion welcome, and get those votes in!
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 20:01 | |
| So something like Monster Hunter would be an 'adventure' game then? As wikipedia classes it an action adventure, even though it has stats & progression similar to an RPG. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 20:08 | |
| I am open to convincing! The basic idea was to go along with Wikipedia's designations, but if people feel strongly about it then it can change. That applies to the above suggestions too.
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 20:27 | |
| Well, games that are labelled adventure tend to be story driven which MH isn't & I've alway seen it as an action rpg so going by the above rules it'd be in the rpg category.
Unless anyone strongly disagrees with me? |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 20:40 | |
| I agree with Jaster. I just view it as an RPG due to the amount of customization of equipment which allows you to take a certain 'role' when 'playing' the 'game'.
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 20:45 | |
| Unless anyone disagrees, then, it's an RPG. I'll update the OP and the post above.
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 21:07 | |
| Week 1 is over! Overall, 8 people voted this week. Thank you all of you, including the 4 who voted for one game (including me)! You're all great. Everyone else is poop (especially Stu  ). My recommendation for those people: try to be less poop by voting this week. Without further ado: Fifth place:- Spoiler:
Art Style: Light TraxPoints: 4 First places: 0  You say: "A hugely underrated game." I say: It's a little sad that we have a game with one vote (albeit a second-place vote) made it into the top 5, but that doesn't mean it's not well-deserved! Not that I can tell one way or the other. Looks interesting from the screenshots, anyway.
Fourth place:- Spoiler:
Need for Speed: CarbonPoints: 5 First places: 0  You say: "...this one I was surprised that I liked as I'm not a fan of racing games but I sunk many fun hours into it:" I say: Realistic racers aren't my area of expertise, so I'll keep mum. Picture looks shiny, anyway.
Third place:- Spoiler:
Excite TruckPoints: 7 First places: 0  You say: "Older than every forumite put together, but it was fun (if a bit simplistic) and possessed a few very interesting gameplay dynamics. Tilty controls done right." I say: The track included in the SSBB soundtrack was awful. Glad to hear that the game was better, as I remember it being sneered at at the time.
Second place:- Spoiler:
Sonic & SEGA All-Stars RacingPoints: 12 First places: 1  You say: "This may be a tad cheeky as I've not actually played it on Wii, but it's better than Mario Kart so:" "It's a tribute act, but the absolute best: OutRun 2 with power-ups. Bettered on Wii U though." I say: You are a cheeky person indeed, first commentator! But who am I to argue with one of only two games voted for thrice?
Our Wiikly Winner:- Spoiler:
Cars: Race-O-Rama- Spoiler:
Oh who am I kidding? - Spoiler:
That One Mario Kart With The BikesPoints: 39 First places: 7  You say: "...the obvious one, not as good as Double Dash or Super but the fact it was a Wii game with decent online made up for it:" "It embodies the appeal of Nintendo for me. Just such a casually enjoyable online game, and kept me coming back for more." "...probably my least favorite Mario Kart game, even when I used a GC controller. However it is the only racing game I owned on the wii..." "Although its not my favourite MK game this was always a laugh on the NGamer Sunday night sessions, Funky kong is now a legend because those nights." "Inevitably! Not a classic iteration of the game - the desperately wide courses and game-broken bikes see to that - but good enough with multiplayers." I say: Yeah yeah, it's probably not the best game in the series, due to bikes and the Wiil being rubbish and the frame rate in split-screen stuttering like a mathematician on stage, but it's still a great game! What with the thunder cloud, and workable online, and King Boo, the Blue Falcon being an optional car, and... just being Mario Kart. In a way, it's a shame it didn't have more competition, as the votes show: but I'm fairly confident that it would still have put in a good showing, even if the Wii'd had a DKR and an F-Zero. A deserved winner (he says, having played exactly none of the others). Just a shame about Funky Kong, really. 
Honourable Mentions (i.e. everything anyone else voted for, in alphabetical order): - Spoiler:
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, Excitebike: 25th Anniversary World Tour Challenge, MotoHeroz.
Dishonourable Mentions (i.e. negative remarks people made with their votes, in alphabetical order): - Spoiler:
- F1 (any year): "...deserves a place in the Hall of Shame."
- Mario Kart Wii: "...probably my least favorite Mario Kart game, even when I used a GC controller."
"Not a classic iteration of the game - the desperately wide courses and game-broken bikes see to that..."
- The Wii in general: "...really needed F-Zero, Wave Race and 1080, didn't it?"
Again, thanks to everyone who voted. Please use this thread to discuss the rankings, or mourn the lack of F-Zero or Wave Race or 1080 on the Wii. in the meantime, vote in Week 2!
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 21:15 | |
| So Super Paper Mario is definitely an RPG for this vote then? That's good because I think that's the only Wii RPG I've played then... although I'll do a quick Google to see if I can unearth anything I've forgotten. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 21:23 | |
| oops! I actually have art style: light trax but didn't really think it was any good at all which is why completely forgot it exsisted. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 21:43 | |
| On the subject of not very good games, if you're making less than five votes, you can position them how you like. You don't need to give a game two points if you think it should only get the one. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 9:29 | |
| yeah i can actually vote this week, nothing on the top 5 racers intrerst me but nice to see though |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:14 | |
| I'd forgotten about Light Trax, and I didn't even know that Wii had Need For Speed Carbon. Disappointed that Excitebike didn't sneak in - very good update and a surprisingly tense online game. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:19 | |
| question where does resident evil 4 sit, its got shotting in it but i wouldnt say its a shooter more of an action adventure , and what about things like another code r is that other |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:28 | |
| Phillips gets a bonus "obscurity point" this week: he voted for two racers that nobody else even mentioned! I would have said that AC:R was a puzzle game (having played the DS prequel) and that RE4 was shooty shooty bang bang. I played only the first five minutes of the latter, but the gun seemed to be pretty key! As always, happy to accept arguments to the contrary. (Basically, get someone else to agree with you and I'll probably make the change.) MP3 is definitely more shooty than adventure-y, though. Great shame after MPs 1 & 2.  |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:35 | |
| I'd definitely still describe MP3 as an action adventure game, no questions. Sure, it's got Space Marines™ and doesn't have the same feeling of isolation as the first two, but at its core it's still a Metroid Prime game. Shame they tried to oversaturate it with terrible terrible characters, but it's definitely action-adventure.
Resident Evil 4 falls into the niche category of survival horror. It's not a shooter in the same sense as Gears of War or a FPS, so it's difficult to define. Wouldn't call it an action-adventure though. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:37 | |
| okay ill put in the sooter. i think this will become even more of probelm in the future if theres a wiiu version of our voting as to me mass effect is an a RPG but a few of my mates say its a 3rd person shooter, same with new tomb raider and uncharted games both adventure games but you use a gun a lot but its complaterly differnet to a gears of war which to me is what i would say a 3rd person shooter is |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:38 | |
| @jay i wouldnt say its a survail horror either thought, thats more like the olderbetter resident evils |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:40 | |
| As Masofadas (and indeed Yahtzee) said, I wouldn't say Resi4 was "survival horror". Too much gunplay, not enough zombies or slow-burning scares.
Anyone want to help Jay challenge my MP3 ruling? (And vote for RPGs, natch - thanks to the four non-me people who have voted so far!)
Oh, and another question: given that I intend to include TP (a GC game with Wii controls) and Okami (a PS2 game with Wii controls), what are people's thoughts on the inclusion of the New Play Control! range?
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:43 | |
| *throws spanner into the works*
I wouldn't call things like MP, red steel & CoD shooters.....they're FPS games......shooters = geometry wars, sin & punishment and Metal slug anthology etc. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:45 | |
| (incorporates spanner into machine) A valid point, now addressed in the OP! |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 12:49 | |
| Glad to see Sonic and NFS Carbon do well. I totally forgot about Excitebike WiiWare, wish I'd included that as I really enjoyed it.
I wouldn't include NPC games, I think Okami and Zelda were special cases. I'd count Bully as one of those cases too.
Trying to work mine out at the moment. Here's another awkward one for you all! FFCC: My Life as a King? Where goes that. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 12:53 | |
| Wikipedia describes it as a "city-building game". I'd say "other", for what it's worth! |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 14:40 | |
| Nah, I wouldn't include the NPC games either because of the fact that control scheme aside, they were fundamentally unchanged from Gamecube. Considering Okami hadn't been on a Nintendo console before its Wii release and that Wii TP was released alongside Cube TP, I think they're valid inclusions. |
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| | Subject: Re: The BIG Wii Voting Thread, Voting Wii-kly: Thanks For Voting! Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 18:52 | |
| RPGs, you say? Picture me rubbing my hands gleefully. I will have much more to say on this topic!  |
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