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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 11:09 | |
| The Legend of Zelda: a Link Between Worlds
I've raved about this already in its own thread, but I see no reason why I can't do it again.
Pros
This is a beautiful game with a wonderful score, a set of well-designed dungeons, and a core mechanic that puts those of several other Zelda games to shame. The wall-meld is used to great effect to turn rooms into huge multi-layered puzzles, explore nooks and crannies of the overworld and give a much greater sense of depth than LttP had. The 3D also helps with this, and should always be up if you can help it. It's wonderful.
It's the improvement of the overworld that really sets ALBW head and shoulders above its prequel for me. As well as all the exploration, especially to find all the Maimai babies (which are absolutely adorable), Hyrule and Lorule feature a surprisingly full set of NPCs and minigames, and a proper "town" in the OoT-music-enhanced Kakariko Village. I didn't like the emptiness of LttP's overworld(s), so this was a real plus point for me.
Also, there's a plot this time around! While fairly standard Zelda stuff, it delivers a few good moments in the first half of the game, as well as two massive twists at the end.
Cons
There are a couple of flaws, sadly, and they're by-products of the rental system and the new freedom it offers. The difficulty in the latter half of the game is all over the place, with the boss of Turtle Rock (and indeed the dungeon in general) being a particular disappointment after the very tricky equivalent in LttP. In addition, due to each dungeon only requiring at most one item, some of the later dungeon puzzles lack item-based complexity, although "hieroglyphing" makes up for this to a large extent. (And at least the Skull Woods isn't completely horrible now.)
I understand that the rental system and resulting freedom were Nintendo trying something new, but in my mind it hasn't worked. As well as the aforementioned two reasons, they've removed the joy of finding a new item halfway through the dungeon, and using it to open up seemingly impassable paths. And I still ended up with my wallet half-full!
Summary
Item rentals aside, it's great. I've enjoyed this more than any other game on the 3DS. SM3DW has taken a back seat while I polish it off. And I haven't even tried its Streetpass features.
If you own a 3DS (and don't have a terrible history with Zelda games I guess), buy this game. Otherwise, buy a 3DS and then buy this game. Contemplating whether to buy a Wii U instead? Divert your Wii U funds into a 3DS, and then buy this game. I hope I've made myself clear.
9.5/10 |
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Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
Posts : 4921 Points : 4933 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 32 Location : The South
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 11:25 | |
| - The_Jaster wrote:
- Have platinum ever made a bad game?
Infinite Space Seeing all this ALBW loving is making me really want to get it! I think I want to finish Sticker Star first or it'll get lost. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 16:04 | |
| I agree with pretty much everything you said about LBW, but I have to jump in to defend W101 and IS. They're both amazing games. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 16:11 | |
| I'm pretty sure Andyman was just trolling, so I went along with it. I like IS, even if it had a design flaw that meant I never finished the game, to the extent that it just missed out on making my DS top ten in Jay's thread. I don't like 101 (sniff), but I can see why others would. |
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Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
Posts : 4921 Points : 4933 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 32 Location : The South
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 17:24 | |
| I think you underestimate how much I despise Infinite Space! Seriously though I never managed to get past the first boss because it didn't explain anything about how the game works so I lost too many games of Rock Paper Scissors. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 2 Jan 2014 - 19:04 | |
| And I've said before that I did fine until I reached a point where my ship was drastically out-equipped, in the second half of the game, so you were probably just rubbish! BTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHP |
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The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11972 Points : 12064 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 2:22 | |
| I personally never had an issue with renting items & as you said it allows you so much freedom & that in my book gives you a greater sense of adventure as you can tackle it anyway you want, in old Zelda's where you found them in dungeons it was usually a case of use once & then never again.
ALBW let's you use them in so many ways even outside of dungeons. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 7:56 | |
| I think my book may well be differently written to yours, Jas! It prefers challenge to freedom. Do you disagree about Turtle Rock?
And I didn't find that with old Zeldas. You'd use your dungeon items in a couple places in the overworld (like in ALBW) and a couple of places in other dungeons (unlike ALBW). |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 18:44 | |
| Do you mean that the boss is easy or the entire dungeon? As I thought the boss was easy but the dungeon had its tricky parts especially trying to navigate the latter parts. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 18:46 | |
| I remember the dungeon being fairly simple too. Or short, at least. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 18:51 | |
| Yeah, it was short & a few others were like that, tower of Hera for example....maybe it's intentional because its on a handheld? |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 3 Jan 2014 - 18:54 | |
| Meh. Didn't stop them with the Ice Cavern. Anyway, other people finishing games! |
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Silver light Ing Warrior
Posts : 343 Points : 351 Join date : 2013-01-16
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Mon 6 Jan 2014 - 21:30 | |
| This post may or may not contain ranting.
Muramasa Rebirth - The original was one of my favourite Wii games, so i'd been looking forward to playing through this. And it's still amazing. Better than before, actually. It felt more at home on the Vita than it did on Wii and the retranslation and control tweaks just help to further refine what was already a pretty good ride. Not to mention how beautiful it looks on that screen...
The only "fault" in the port imo would be that all the new content is (as of yet unreleased) DLC. But eh, just going through the original game again with the tweaks made it worth it for me.
Valkyria Chronicles III: Unrecorded Chronicles - Or: the most vocally demanded unlocalised PSP game of all time. Or it would be if Square weren't rejecting free money (Type-0). Anyway...obviously, it isn't as good as the first game. That's pretty much a given. But it actually got much closer than i was expecting after the setting and cast trainwreck called VC II. It's VC I's 1935 war setting again and the Nameless, while sometimes feeling a bit standard and cliche, are generally quite a likable bunch. It manages to balance it's seriousness and goofy moments well, with some fairly dark bits sprinkled in for good measure. It's not a short jolt, either - i regularly hammer through long JRPGs in 20 hours or less. This took me just under 40. Without doing any of the (many, with one for each squad member and then some more on top for good measure) side chapters at all. If nothing else, Sega sure stacked the content in.
I imagine that didn't take too much effort though, since they decided that in this dish of gameplay brilliance and graphical beauty, Sega decided to reuse the leftovers from the previous consumer's meal as the main ingredient. It was on the very first battle i rubbed my eyes and thought "isn't this map from VC II? Eh...guess it's just for the tutorial...". Boy, was that wrong. In fact, the vast majority of the battlefield maps are simply the exact same ones that already got reused to death in VC II. Only being reused to death here now instead, too. It's just...why? Could you really not make the damn effort to create more than three (i think?) new sodding maps for the game, Sega? Actually, what am i saying. Of course they couldn't. It's blatent shitty asset reuse at it's finest and it really kind of ruins what otherwise would have been a top-drawer game imo.
...Although it still won't stop me diving straight back into it once there's a better version of the fantranslation patch out though, heh. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
Posts : 4637 Points : 4663 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 42 Location : Milton Keynes
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Wed 8 Jan 2014 - 22:48 | |
| THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS
2nd best 2D Zelda ever (and #19 on my all-time game list. Yeah I made one. F*** you.) The only reason it's not the top one is that it often makes me nostalgic for my youth and the discovery of A Link to the Past; also, the game may dwell too much on its predecessor.
Still: 10/10 |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 2:33 | |
| LEGO Lord of the Rings: It had been aaaaages since I'd last played a LEGO game, and I really enjoyed it. They're a lot prettier looking than I remember, and I particularly enjoyed the open-world Middle Earth. It did result in some amusing moments though, like walking for 30 seconds to get from Rohan to Gondor. Pretty sure that took like 3 hours of film time for Aragorn and chums to do so. The humour was weaker than I recall, but that might be because I'm older. All told - pretty fun, for what it was! |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 9:01 | |
| - Jimbob wrote:
- 2nd best 2D Zelda ever (and #19 on my all-time game list. Yeah I made one. F*** you.) The only reason it's not the top one is that it often makes me nostalgic for my youth and the discovery of A Link to the Past; also, the game may dwell too much on its predecessor.
I really think that if you've already played the original, then ALBW has made its predecessor obsolete, apart from maybe a slight issue with challenge. But then, I don't really do nostalgia (apart from SM64, perhaps), nor did I like LttP that much. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 19:19 | |
| Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Finally finished this last night. Very, very slow opening but once I got out of the starting village it evolved into the best Action RPG in decades. Brilliant combat system, loads of customisation options, a story line that kept me guessing, varied gameplay... the whole tactical thing with the gyroid squadrons was deep as well.
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 19:30 | |
| - Buskalilly wrote:
- Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Finally finished this last night. Very, very slow opening but once I got out of the starting village it involved into the best Action RPG in decades. Brilliant combat system, loads of customisation options, a story line that kept me guessing, called gameplay... the whole tactical thing with the gyroid squadrons was deep as well. Nook was such a brilliant character too. I never saw that twist where: - Spoiler:
the robot commander of the enemy army turned out to be him all along. I cried at the end.
(This is actually a reference to something else, but I reckon unless you've played it you won't get it.)
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 19:55 | |
| - Buskalilly wrote:
- Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Finally finished this last night. Very, very slow opening but once I got out of the starting village it involved into the best Action RPG in decades. Brilliant combat system, loads of customisation options, a story line that kept me guessing, called gameplay... the whole tactical thing with the gyroid squadrons was deep as well. ...I really really want this to happen. And it never will. Thanks, Buska. Thanks a lot. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Thu 9 Jan 2014 - 21:01 | |
| Thanks for both quoting me before I noticed and fixed that typo... |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 10 Jan 2014 - 11:48 | |
| Amazingly, I've completed three games in a fortnight. First was Attack of the Friday Monsters: A Tokyo Tale, then SteamWorld Dig. Now falls Disney Epic Mickey: The Power of Illusion.
I remember this being one of my most anticipated games of 2012 - as a huge fan of Castle of Illusion, this sounded like a can't-miss, sure-fire success. The reviews put me off, but I decided I'd get it after a price drop, and finally picked it up for under a tenner last weekend.
Was it worth the extra year's wait? Err...
Firstly, the concept, soundtrack and visuals are all outstanding. The production outdoes that of pretty much every third-party 3DS game I've seen. It looks and sounds wonderful. The feeling of nostalgia is strong - you can tell the developers were huge fans of the Mega Drive prequel - and the arse-bounce is still one of the greatest jumps in platforming history. However, they overdo it with the daft painting gimmick, and the amount of back-tracking is a completely transparent way of masking the complete and utter lack of levels. I was fighting the final boss after only twelve short-ish levels and two boss fights. That's unacceptable for a game that originally sold for £40 in 2012. There's also an almighty difficulty spike near the end, which is totally at odds with how easy the game is in it's first half. Let's not begin on the amount of irrelevant character chit-chat either.
So, one for Disney fans and 2D platforming retroheads alike. That's about as far as I'd recommend it, though. It can be fun, and the building blocks are strong and robust for a sequel, but its sluggish, brief and a little bit disappointing.
6/10 |
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The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11972 Points : 12064 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 10 Jan 2014 - 13:29 | |
| Cloudberry Kingdom (story mode)
I really enjoyed this & even though it had its moments where it would frustrate the core mechanics are just superb, when you first lay eyes on a level that looks impossible or one where you die over 100+ times you just get a great feeling once you eventualy conquer it.
Bloody hated those laser beams though.
8/10
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Fri 10 Jan 2014 - 14:11 | |
| For me, Cloudberry Kingdom's Story Mode had become a right sod by the end. It soured my experience of the game. Anyway! The Legend Of Zelda: A Link Between WorldsThere's so much to love about ALBW. The use of ALTTP's overworld was great, allowing it to play with your expectations. The become a painting mechanic was just genius, too. Many of the sidequests were fun - my particular favourite being the Maiamai hunt. Curse those squeaky souls! My complaint was the dungeons. I play Zelda for the dungeons and, once you broke into Lorule, the dungeons felt tiny (with the exception of the mid-sized Ice Palace, and the final Castle). If all the dungeons were twice as large, it would be my favourite 3DS game by miles. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
Posts : 4637 Points : 4663 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 42 Location : Milton Keynes
| Subject: Re: Last game you finished and your thoughts Sun 19 Jan 2014 - 10:14 | |
| Rayman Legends
It's certainly a better game than NSMBU, and there's a whole lot of "different" going on.
There's still a problem that Rayman himself, as a character, is a bit of blank cardboard (this strikes me as odd given that Mr. Ancel created Beyond Good and Evil); eventually I migrated to the much-more-fun barbarian sisters. In fact, all the characters apart from Raymond (come on, you do that in your head every time) are absolutely fantastic - e.g. the "oh, what?" faces on the toad dudes when defeated is priceless.
I don't really know what the global plot was either - was it just rescue the teensies? (another complaint I think I've made before - this game assumes you are familiar with all things Rayman). Don't get me wrong, "story" is destroying modern gaming; but a good game, if without jarring talky cutscenes, should always be able to explain what's going on through the output of the screen.
and of course thegame has good music and good sounds and good graphics. Also impressed with the dynamic variation of the daily challenges. I still have to attempt them every day I switch the game on. And of course, you essentially get the predecessor free.
8/10 (like everything else) |
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