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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Mon 12 Sep 2016 - 20:04 | |
| AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!If there's anything in this entire bloody (pardon the pun) anime that's going to make me despair it's that FUCKING CLIFFHANGER AAAAAAAAAI'm sorry, I can't carry through with your idea, I need all the Future Arc up in my eyes ASAP. Would appreciate a list of 'trigger warnings' before the next Despair one but OH MY GOD you TEASE And **** that character you mentioned, or rather the ones responsible. With a giant spiky cactus. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 14 Sep 2016 - 9:19 | |
| So who do you think is the real killer now Balla? Any theories on the mastermind now? - Spoiler:
I'm still banking on the killer being Chisa and the mastermind being either Chiaki or Nagito myself. Either way someone sure is hightailing it out of Jabberwock in a hurry!
Been watching Madoka Magica the last few nights too. Since, you know, - sorta spoilers I guess maybe?:
I totally ain't watching enough media about DESPAIR right now or anything!
One forgets how fun a good deconstruction can be. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 14 Sep 2016 - 9:51 | |
| No new ones, I agree with you on the killer... God knows about the mastermind, we'll see what happens. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 14 Sep 2016 - 19:56 | |
| Heard some interesting tidbits that might mean something about the killer, and that we might either be completely right or completely wrong. I suggest checking out the Danganronpa Killer-Killer manga before next weeks episode if at all possible. I know I'll be binging on it tomorrow, that's for sure. If it does indeed come in to play, well, lets just say the tidbits I've heard about it are quiet game-changing. Finished Madoka a while back too. Good series, good series. Its reputation wasn't overstated, for once. Also has the cutest magic cat ever! Kyubey for the win! Totes make a contract with him today, you won't regret it! Seriously though the series was some seriously good stuff and definitely something I'd consider putting on my "every anime fan casual or hardcore needs to watch once" list. Anyone that gets put off by the cutsey magical girl stuff would be well advised to give the series a shot anyway, it's short and will surprise you. Good character arcs, good story, fantastic animation, glorious music, it's pretty much the full package. Even has a good ending too, which is worth noting given how few anime seem to be able to stick the landing. Plus Kyubey! - Madoka spoilers:
Like the best deconstructions it rips everything to pieces before rebuilding them and coming full circle on the magical girl stuff. Only unlike Evangelion it doesn't go full "CONGRATULATIONS!" in the ending and instead opts for a satisfying conclusion with enough ambiguity to leave you thinking after the series has ended.
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 14 Sep 2016 - 21:19 | |
| By the way Athrun, I must admit I'm surprised that you haven't joined in with any of the Ace Attorney leaping around. It seems like your sort of thing, as it is very anime in style. Never been tempted? This is tangentially related to the topic in hand, as I am continuing to watch the AA anime (which is partway through Justice for All, incidentally) and it's a very nice retelling of the narrative. Obviously play the games first, then wait a while before watching this. And be prepared for some quite dodgy animation in the first series. - DR3 Despair 10 Spoiler:
CALLED IT.
Did not call the Juzo thing. Eh.
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 15 Sep 2016 - 18:50 | |
| Ace Attorney's one of those series that's been on my radar for years, but as time goes on and the radar gets larger and larger it gets harder to push up the priority list if you know what I mean. There's a lot of things that basically have "you'll love these" practically written as their titles and they've just built up over the years to the point I was forced to basically order them using ease of access and commitment as criteria. Heck Madoka Magica was actually one such title. There was a time five or six years ago when the DS was still prominent where I probably should've taken the leap then. I used to play games all the time back then and had none of the issues I do now with settling down and just playing for five or six hours and Ace Attorney was readily available. Doesn't help I live a really disorganised daily schedule, so by the time everything's done I spend most of my spare time dawdling on the internet. Like right now. . . I think after I've finished here I'll crash, I really need to crack on with the novel I'm reading. You ever seen Madoka Magica Balla? No comment on dr3 Despair yet either, the official subs are, as usual, taking their despairfully long time to come out. #Momentai |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 15 Sep 2016 - 20:56 | |
| I'd say that now's about the best opportunity you'll get (short of a few weeks ago): new one just come out, and Drunka's going through them case by case on Gintendo, so you'd not be alone. As the first three are on mobile (although the best versions are on DS), you can even play them whiling walking... if, like me, you don't mind banging into a lamp post occasionally. And no, I've not seen Madoka... the main problem being that I'm already very well acquainted with its twists. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 15 Sep 2016 - 21:00 | |
| I'd recommend downloading the trilogy on 3DS (or phone if that's your jam) and playing them as I am, one case a week. They can be done in one sitting and that way don't feel like much more of a commitment than watching a TV show. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Fri 16 Sep 2016 - 13:35 | |
| I. AM. DONE. You hear me? DONE!
You wanna talk about triggers? Because I am so f***ing triggered right now. This is right up there with that time a pack of magpies ripped a baby one apart in front of me.
I can't even muster up the willpower to say anything about Juzo turning out to be in the closet for Munakata, none for mastermind theories, barely enough to ask Balla what twists of Madoka were spoiled, and certainly not enough to be able to make a argument for watching Madoka anyway (even though you totally should). I'm absolutely livid, furious, upset, sad, all in one searing hot package.
I swear if I watch despair 11 it's exclusively because it's the final one at this point. F*** this s***. I'm off to play Digimon and try to unsear what I just watched from my mind. That horses*** better have one HELL of a payoff next week. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Fri 16 Sep 2016 - 13:41 | |
| My response is looking calm and considered right now. Although again, I didn't watch the episode. Go play some Phoenix Wright, that'll make you feel better. All the criminals get their just desserts sooner or later, guaranteed. (Spoilers I guess...) - Madoka twists wot have been spoiled:
I know what happens to magical girls to make them witches, and how Kyubei is wrapped up in all of it.
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Fri 16 Sep 2016 - 16:12 | |
| There's still a couple of twists in Madoka in store for you then including one biggie at the late-game, I knew even more than that going in and had a blast. Well, blast might not be the exact word given the tone of the series, but it was a really good series even with the spoilers. Just gotta let yourself grow attached to the characters and the show does the rest. And unlike f***ing Despair it won't - Despair 11 spoilers whatever:
spend half a show executing your favourite one slowly and painfully as they make their way through a labyrinth constantly triggering traps that cause sharp metal things to constantly injure them badly enough to hurt like hell but not incapacitate them all so they can make it to the final room to be greeted by a nice vision of everyone smiling only to be impaled by a dozen spears that leave you alive and slowly bleeding out on the ground for god knows how long. After having killed an AI version of the character previously.
I get the executions have always been "brutal", the difference is they've always been highly stylised and so over the top affairs. This wasn't stylised or cartoonishly over the top. It was brutal and overly long, and in hindsight I agree with you earlier comment about how normally there's a hero fighting to see justice be done, somehow knowing justice is going to be done makes this sort of thing a lot more tolerable. Although I'm not sure in this case that would've made my reaction much different. I supposed I should mention - episode ending:
Izuru at the end walking over to Chiaki's bleeding out body and witnessing her final moments ending on his face streaming tears for a reason he can't understand.
Only because that'll likely come in to play later in Future. Back to the far superior Madoka, I knew - Earlier mentioned Madoka Spoils :
Kyubey wasn't all he seemed going in (the exact specifics were still interesting to see unfold however, and I stand by my remarks about his adorableness!), and while I wasn't spoiled on the latter twist I did put two and two together within a couple of episodes.
Basically there are four big twists, and if those are the only spoilers you know you've still got the best twist under wraps. Can't get AA right now alas as I'm broke. Digimon's pretty grand and mollifying my anger and sorrow however so that's nice. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Fri 16 Sep 2016 - 16:15 | |
| - Athrun888 wrote:
- I get the executions have always been "brutal", the difference is they've always been highly stylised and so over the top affairs. This wasn't stylised or cartoonishly over the top. It was brutal and overly long, and in hindsight I agree with you earlier comment about how normally there's a hero fighting to see justice be done, somehow knowing justice is going to be done makes this sort of thing a lot more tolerable. Although I'm not sure in this case that would've made my reaction much different.
Agreed with all of this. Wasn't it episode 10 though? Meaning we've got two to go. Maybe tune in for 12 only... |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Fri 16 Sep 2016 - 16:28 | |
| I'm seeing around the place that episode 11 is the end of Despair proper and episode 12 is going to be an extra of some kind. Either way at this point I can't see how they can possibly get more mentally scarring, they've already figuratively and literally butchered the two characters the viewers would be upset the most by seeing it happen to. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Mon 19 Sep 2016 - 13:32 | |
| Reminder a few hours out of the penultimate Dangan-Future episode that the mastermind is probably! - Spoiler:
Our Lord And Saviour Hopeman Nagito Komaeda! Why he could be the mastermind! - The above image, three guesses who said that originally in a past main series game. Hint: it ain't Junko. - Out of all the dr2 cast he got an entire episode to himself - During that episode, in a series with splotchy continuity, it made references to Nagito's past sayings, including his glorious line that small dogs, no matter how much they desire it, can never become large dogs. - This entire killing game has been about pitting the two symbols of hope against one another. - The mastermind is one of two things, either brilliant at predicting things to a small scale, or very veeeery lucky. - The forbidden actions have all been geared at prolonging Makoto and Munakata, yet at the same time designed to bring the pair together for a final showdown at a designated point in time. Whoever the mastermind is they want Makoto and Munakata specifically to duke it out with their ideologies.
Alternatively the mastermind is someone who has a grudge against future foundation and the first victim. In light of the last episode who on earth could possibly fit that bill, I have no idea! /sarcasm - Spoiler:
Yes, I'm calling Izuru out as a possible mastermind now. I wasn't before, after the final scene of Despair however I think he's a feasible suspect. Chisa was the first victim, assuming she's actually dead and not the mastermind or the killer then that points to someone having it out for her. The only person alive who'd fit that bill is Izuru.
At this point I'm also starting to wonder if the mysterious sixteenth person in the counter might be Izuru as well. We know it isn't Togami, it's unlikely to be sageman, it's not Fukawa or Komaru, as far as people who've appeared on-screen go we're running out of candidates here.
Deeeeeeeeeellllaaaaaaaaays aaaaaaaaaaarrreeeeee ffffuuuuuuuunnnnn. Also the Madoka movie bluray shipped! Can't wait for more delicious despair! The good feelsy kind that is, not the stomach churning triggering kind. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Tue 20 Sep 2016 - 19:31 | |
| D'AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW
And then... well. I guess we know what/who Despair 11 is going to centre around. I'm not sure how... |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 21 Sep 2016 - 16:42 | |
| Not sure I like this "twist". It makes sense, I guess, but I dunno. It just lacks that balls to the walls insanity Danganronpa fire. It feels too simple as well. My money's on his plan being hijacked by the real mastermind. Something has to be up surely. Still nice to see my hunch about the Monokuma clips being pre-recorded was on the money, I suspected as much upon rewatching episode one but wasn't confident enough to outright say as much. - Culprit spoilers:
Hah, suicide it was. Have to say Ruruka really hated herself.
- Death spoilers:
Welp, guess Sakakura proved once and for all Kirigiri is totes dead.
I like how his character was handled, but his death changes nothing. He's still a Grade A tosser as far as I'm concerned. Him and Munakata not being able to have a final farewell is a fitting punishment for the pair of them.
Actually thinking about it - Mastermind spoilers:
Thinking back his message about leaving the fate of the world to someone might not be to Mitarai either, counter's been off since the start and now somebody is ringing Mitarai using Tengen's phone after Tengen is absolutely for certain dead. Plus some people have noted Mitarai has been checking his phone constantly since the game started.
And I'll also add to that that the bombing started after he entered the room.
WELL THEN - Spoiler:
Calling it now - Mastermind predictions:
Tengan either knew this was going to happen and allowed it for some reason, or he set it up to draw the actual remnant out of hiding.
Seems we're still several big reveals away from the answer to this mystery. |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 17:23 | |
| Just heard some hopeful news! You know how you've been calling Side Future Side Hope Balla? Well prepare yourself! - "Despair 12" name spoilers!:
We're transitioning to Side: Hope for the finale of Dangan 3! Get. Hype.Given that I guess I'll torture myself one final time in a few days. After all there's no way they can get worse than Despair 10. The silver lining of the despair-filled cloud that is them killing all the characters I care about. Now watch them find a way! |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 17:34 | |
| Huh. Might actually tune in... except! - Remember Despair Episode 1 where...:
...you had Chisa narrating things in a cinema? Whose hope are we talking about exactly? Because if it's hers... I think it will actually somehow be a happy ending, I don't think even DR Despair Arc will end things on a despairing note... probably. I wonder if we'll go to Jabberwock Island in the future? So far we've seen one shot of Hinata/Kamukura on it in Future 7 or something, and then nowt.
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 18:02 | |
| I doubt it'll have anything to do with Chisa honestly, Side Despair was her story, the title changing likely means a change of setting. - Spoiler:
She doesn't have hope any more either, it's literally impossible for her to experience it now. Her conversation with Makoto made that clear.
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Sat 24 Sep 2016 - 11:55 | |
| Well, against my better judgement ( and after being informed we were done with the gratuitous violence) I sat down and watched the finale of Despair, and yes, it is indeed the finale. The verdict? It gets: Athrun888's Non-triggering Seal of Approval Join Danganronpa 3 next week, same time same place, for! - Spoiler:
I'm not going to go in to details about the episode, there was nothing all that objectionable in it so it's safe to watch. I will say it pretty much answered a big question I'd been left with after last weeks episode however. Namely - Spoiler:
how the flying spotted heck did anybody include know to include an AI Chiaki in the neo world program.
Decent enough episode, mostly set-up for the two games and Future, the Junko-Makoto scene was fun stuff. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Sat 24 Sep 2016 - 13:07 | |
| Thanks for that - as a result of which, I was actually able to watch this. - Spoiler:
IT WAS MEMES ALL ALONG. Now I know about the enduring popularity of Harambe: it's meant to spread DESPAIR.
So Kamukura set up both the virus and the AI? Fair enough. No clues as to what's going on with Tengan though.
Ironic that Chiza basically did the opposite to Komaeda: feeding hope so that despair would triumph.
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 14:24 | |
| Super late news but
ONE PUNCH MAN SECOND SEASON CONFIRMED!
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-25/one-punch-man-tv-anime-gets-2nd-season-game-app/.106871
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Let me say this, if you haven't watched One Punch Man DO SO RIGHT NOW. This hilarious action series parody with slick as hell action sequences wasn't a smash hit for nothing, and at a mere twelve episodes there is absolutely no excuse not to try it either! |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Tue 27 Sep 2016 - 18:34 | |
| - Oh Hagakure, never change:
LEVELS IN BADASS FOR EVERYONE bar Asahina who gets shot and is then useless.
Presumably we finally get to see the Remnants now. But a question remains: if Tengu-sama set up the game, why the heck would he give his champion a bracelet not allowing him to do the thing he was meant to do? Silly Tengu-sama!
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 21:21 | |
| Oh that one's simple! - Spoiler:
Otherwise Mitarai'd end the far too early, so early that while he will willingly use the video on the others he would in all likelihood lack the conviction to force it upon the world.
I just love how he's turned in to - Spoiler:
The Enoshima of Hope, it's hilarious. Nobody will ever top Nagito for "effed up people who show Hope can be as bad as despair" but I like where we're going about excess of either is as bad as excess of the other.
Fun episode. Also loling over - Spoiler:
Chisa being dead for real, red herring after all. Everyone was so sure she was the mastermind, and to be fair for a while I was on that train of throught as well, it was a twist that had that classic Danganronpa flavour, but the longer all this went on the less likely it seemed.
At first I wasn't impressed about Tengan being the mastermind, however now we've got his motivations I like it. Not on the same levels of epic as the Junko twist of game one or the VR and Izuru twist of game 2, but it works.
Roll on Side Hope! |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: The Anime/Manga/Related Merchandise Thread Thu 29 Sep 2016 - 20:30 | |
| Dopo, just making some last minute calls and clarifictations before I see the finale ( whenever the official subs stop dragging their feet) - Predictions, naturally a metric ton of spoilers up to but not including the finale are involved:
-Tengan isn't the mastermind of the current game, I say that because of the dissonance between Tengan's goal of getting Mitarai to show the video and the forbidden action being using his talent. I know before I said it was to prolong it, and I think that was definitely a big reason, but I firmly believe that...
-the plan has been hijacked by somebody else. Again, Mitarai's forbidden action. I believe whoever set the current game up used Tengan's as a base for it, and wanted it to go on long enough that Mitarai would use the video.
-Speaking of the video, the mastermind likely has either tampered with it, or they believe it will spread despair instead. Which when you think about it, it actually is. What else would one call humanity becoming emotionless mind-slaves but despair? Also remember the the concept of Despair wearing the guise of Hope has been mentioned several times throughout the series.
Just a few last minute things that crossed my mind. And with that I'm going on a blackout of all anime forums and threads until I see the episode. It's been a fun ride, lets hope this goes out with a hope filled bang! |
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