amiibo

Yes but at first glance it looks like you are saying it as there are no quote marks or box around it, I honestly expected a link of some sort and maybe thought it was broken.

So just watched the Splatoon Direct seems and seem the amiibo for the game will be the most useful part from maybe Mario Party's but from the direct it says 3 at launch. Which makes me think we will be getting more like the cat in the game having one.

I now see what people mean about certain content being "locked" behind the Splatoon amiibo, I might need that boy inkling now.

EDIT: Most places selling it for £15 - £20? Maybe I don't need it now.

Yeah, Splatoon locks 45 challenge levels and 15 pieces of gear across 3 Amiibo, as well as those arcade games. I feel excluded. It's good that Nintendo appear to have sorted out the supply issues for the Splatoon Amiibo, given they no longer do throwaway things, but there's no way I'm paying £45-60 to get 3 of them and unlock that content, it's simply not worth that, especially to someone who doesn't care about the figures themselves.

Honestly, I'd rather Nintendo just offered the content for an actual paid fee, instead I feel excluded.

The amiinkbo are amazing in quality compared to the SMASH ones.

Mr Sterling on amiibo

Watched that recently. Nintendo are notorious for mismanagement of such things, but that this is still going on to such an extent almost a year after their introduction is ridiculous. Glad I didn't buy into it all, with the exception of the Yarn Yoshiibo about which I have no regrets.

I do think walling off considerable content behind Amiibo is a stupid idea, considering the scarcity of them. The little extras like extra coins or whatever - fine. But content like Splatoon's challenge mode really ought to have been in the game on launch and restricting it to Amiibo just seems like a money grab to me.

Or make available as DLC as the challenges are extra content.

JayMoyles wrote:

I do think walling off considerable content behind Amiibo is a stupid idea, considering the scarcity of them. The little extras like extra coins or whatever - fine. But content like Splatoon's challenge mode really ought to have been in the game on launch and restricting it to Amiibo just seems like a money grab to me.

I see what you're saying but it's like Nintendo can't win in this regard when it comes to amiibo's as people ask for them to unlock more meaningful content yet when Splatoon does it people expect it to be part of the main game already.

Splatoon for me is easily the best use of amiibo so far, it's just a case of them keeping up with the demand/making them readily available so folk don't lose out on playing that content or paying over the odds for it.

The main problem is that Nintendo haven't been doing that. They've been doing exactly not that.

However, I disagree about this being a good use of amiibo. It should arguably have been included in the full game, and seems like an arbitrary paywall. I do like the outfits in YWW, but feel that the best use of amiibo is something that makes use of the write-access, like the Smash Bros. FPs.

Totally disagree Balla, the amiibo are part of the whole toys-to-life genre and for content they suck in till we got the splatoon ones.

I never use my SMASH ones as they don't do anything meaningful there just cool collectable figures to me those, where the splatoon ones I will actaully use.

The problem with them is there isn't enough of them being made, but there is a solution put it out as a DLC Challenge Pack.

It's definitely a more significant use than previous ones. As far as a good use is considered, however:

Balladeer wrote:

It should arguably have been included in the full game, and seems like an arbitrary paywall.

But you can that about any content should arguably be in it with any game, there is actually enough content in Splatoon without the challenge maps but they add more if you wish.

Like with any DLC and that's what it is DLC but stuck behind a arbitrary paywall, hence why I said make available as DLC if you can't make enough of the figures.

And it's not like Skylanders where you need a certain elemental toy to get further in the game as only the fire dude will melt the ice blocking the next area for instance.

It is exactly DLC, but it's at-launch DLC (bad) that not enough people can buy (worse).

Speaking of not enough people buying it, I hope you do use the Smash figures you collect, Mas? Else it would seem (given the limited stock) that you're depriving somebody who would actually use it the chance to do just that. But I'm guessing you'd get (say) MK8 costumes out of them at least.

Yeah it is day one DLC which is kinda bad also depends on what the DLC does.

I've used for the costumes in Kart and will in Yoshi but to me that isn't meaningful content, like I said I'm buying the SMASH ones as there cool collectables not because what they do.

And most people seem to want them as well for the collectable reason but not the actual reason they exist which is the whole toys-to-life unlocks content that you can only get with these things and then when they do that like they do with splatoon everyone moans about it.

But can't remember ever moaning about skylanders when they first came out that you had to buy the certain dude or with Disney that you can only play guardians content if you have a guardian.

Hence why I agree with Jas that Nintendo can't really win as if they make it to meaningful people moan they can't play it or there not meaningful enough but then Nintendo still wins as I will buy as I like collectables along with lot's of other people.

I imagine that there were enough Skylanders to go around though.

Yes and there be lots of fire dudes for instance but you did still need to go buy X type of figure to get places in the game, the problem here isn't the content with splatoon (it is with the smash ones, well it is to me) it's not making enough.

You would of thought Nintendo would of maybe contacted who makes infinity or skylanders figures or someone that can mass-produce toys like hasbro.

It's not quite that simple.  Nintendo could have made the content obtainable by other means (and given that it was ready on day 1, they arguably should have); alternatively, they could have made the amiibi more available.  Either could be considered the problem.

And speak of the devil - NL's doing a poll feature. I went for the bottom-most option on each.

To me it's the second make them more available as you don't go play skylanders and pay a £3 microtransaction to melt the ice wall you go buy the fire dude to get into that content and the splatoon content is no different.  

As there part of the toy-to-life things and they should do something part from being a cool figure which in till now they haven't compared to any of the other toy-to-life things.

Only reason this is a being talked about now is not everyone has the option to that content as there isn't enough amiibo and people that can't get them are now moaning the content should be there anyway. Well that's like saying all the stuff in skylanders, infinity or dimensions should be unlocked right away with 1 figure and you never have to buy another one.

Maybe it's a good thing there isn't a amiibo game as everyone be moaning then as Shulk amiibo has amazing attack damage but only 3 people have him.

The Splatoon thing is an odd one. To get at all the content available on day one, you would have had to pay an extra £33. That's plain madness, in my book. You don't have to do that, obviously, but there had better be another way to access those missions coming along.

The whole amiibo issue is a mess, whichever way you look at it. The figures do so many different things in so many different games that there's no strong single message to give to people about them. My 10-year-old cousin still finds it confusing that there is no game where you can play as your amiibo: he's grown up with Skylanders, y'see. We played a bit of Smash Bros. with Pikachu (Chewie) in there, because that was the best I could do at the time (the sneaky blighter even won a few matches!). Yoshi's Woolly World will start to bridge that gap, but a game where you can genuinely play as your amiibo may never happen... and that makes me sad.

I still kinda disagree that it needs to be available elsewhere, know it could be but why should it.

Your cousin doesn't go I wish this was just available as DLC this part of skylanders. No he goes and buys a skylander figure.

To me there's only one issue that there isn't enough amiibo, also if you wanted so much why didn't you preorder them.

masofdas wrote:

I still kinda disagree that it needs to be available elsewhere,  know it could be but why should it.

So it's readily available to more people. It could be amongst the first amiibo cards or as honest-to-goodness DLC, it matters not... let's just get more Splatoon-y goodness out to the people that want it.

masofdas wrote:

To me there's only one issue that there isn't enough amiibo,  also if you wanted so much why didn't you preorder them.

I'm not bothered by the extra Splatoon missions myself (although I did want the Girl Inkling, just because I wanted a female amiibo).

balla wrote:

The main problem is that Nintendo haven't been doing that. They've been doing exactly not that.

I know that's true of the smash bros amiibo, not sure if it's any different for the splatoon ones (probably isn't) as I haven't looked into it as I'm happy with the squid one I have at the minute.

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I've personally always looked at amiibo as 1) figures I like to collect and 2) a way to access DLC/extra content, they are also more open than that as well and could be to the toys to life thing in the right game.

The main problem is though as I don't see Nintendo designing a game around the amiibo themselves as they have a very specific way of making games where they may have many ideas then they nail down a certain one & perfect it rather take one idea (e.g. amiibo) and build around it.

zeroJones wrote:

So it's readily available to more people. It could be amongst the first amiibo cards or as honest-to-goodness DLC, it matters not... let's just get more Splatoon-y goodness out to the people that want it.

I'd gladly take amiibo cards if I couldn't get my hands on the figures.

ZeroJones wrote:

masofdas wrote:

I still kinda disagree that it needs to be available elsewhere,  know it could be but why should it.

So it's readily available to more people. It could be amongst the first amiibo cards or as honest-to-goodness DLC, it matters not... let's just get more Splatoon-y goodness out to the people that want it.

If Nintendo does put the splatoon challenges available as DLC on the eShop then all of the other amiibo related content should also be on the eShop which renders the amiibo completely pointless part from being a collectable figure and that's not what there meant to be. People like me have made them a colelctable figure with SMASH ones for instance but I would much sooner have a figure like the splatoon ones that do something meaningful & why they cost X amount.

Again know one says Skylanders, Infinity or will say about Dimensions having all it's content available as DLC, so why should it be different for Nintendo & amiibo.

To me there is only one issue and that's not the content the splatoon amiibo unlocks as to me that's what amiibo should be doing if your not making a game to use them which I said early might be a bad idea as everyone be moaning then as X amiibo does something in the game & no one can get it the problem there isn't enough of them if you do want them.

And the solutions be it DLC or Card renders the figures pointless that Nintendo might as well just do DLC & not have the figures.

I like the cards if it's it own thing like with AC:HHD but not to replace current figures.