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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sat 11 Jan 2020 - 10:18 | |
| I guess it's not odd but just seen you post about BotW and the last bit about that being in the world etc is how I would describe DS and the BotW similarities Kojima talked about but this time with a purpose. |
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Muss Shiny Shuckle
Posts : 2557 Points : 2575 Join date : 2015-04-03 Location : The 5th Dimension
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sat 11 Jan 2020 - 11:58 | |
| I'm going to pick up Death Standing at some point. I'm not sure when though and a large part of that is wanting it to be cheaper so I can tap out if I'm not into it without feeling like I've wasted money. Slow starts aren't always a bad thing, but I'm worried that this'll be a bit tortuous. Bombercrew is less a slow starter, more a stubbornly slow march. Each mission simply takes far too long. Significant downtime whilst you're in the air combined with a gameplay loop that necessitates lots of missions just isn't a good recipe. I like crew management games, with FTL being one of my top indie games, and enjoy the mental dexterity required to do really well in those games (or at least an ability to hit that pause button). Bombercrew, though, is just too cumbersome. Thematically, having stodgy controls fits the WWII period, but after a while you'll grow tired of wrestling the camera in order to pick out way points/enemy bombers. Every crew member has a valuable specialisation, and you'll sometimes need to swap crew members around in order to heal them. But timing all of the special abilities they have is a chore because without pausing, zooming out and wiggling the camera around, you don't really have a good sense of where the enemy is. Combine this with an already glacial mission tempo and if you're anything like me you'll simply resolve to using abilities, such as the gunners aim focus, whenever it feels right. I know I'm doing things wrong, I want the game to be something that it's not. But if I really wanted a slower paced tense tatical game, I'd be looking at something like Battle Star Galactica. This isn't a bad game. I enjoyed customising my team, plane, putting a giant picture of my Switch profile picture on the wings and watching my team gel; not bad for the price of a meal deal. But this isn't something I'll think about coming back to. 5/10 |
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Treesmurf Dry Metal Baby Princess
Posts : 4204 Points : 4206 Join date : 2013-01-17 Age : 34 Location : Manneh
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sun 12 Jan 2020 - 11:11 | |
| Feel like you've saved me some money there, was very on the fence with Bomber Crew, doesn't sound like it's what I was expecting it to be though. - masofdas wrote:
- I guess it's not odd but just seen you post about BotW and the last bit about that being in the world etc is how I would describe DS and the BotW similarities Kojima talked about but this time with a purpose.
The similarities are precisely why I was interesting in Death Stranding but when it came to it the world wasn't as interesting and traversing it wasn't much fun either, I think the climbing in BotW shouldn't be underestimated as to how much more enjoyable it made it. Weirdly the more I'm talking about it now though the more I wanna give it another try... Might be one for later when I've got nothing else to play. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sun 12 Jan 2020 - 12:27 | |
| I would say exactly the same but the other way around. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
Posts : 4637 Points : 4663 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 42 Location : Milton Keynes
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sun 12 Jan 2020 - 14:48 | |
| Sounds like your programming is re-arranged - which leads me to BABA IS YOUI've shelved it. The ideally is bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody brilliant - being able to change the rules of the puzzle as well as the elements themselves. But. I don't think I'm the stupidest person in the world (and I'm about to write in the Last Game You Finished topic about another smart-arse puzzle game, and felt like a genius) but it just gets too difficult too quickly. Unlike The Witness, it doesn't give you a lot of guidance as to what you are and aren't allowed to do, and so you get stuck behind some hidden piece of logic. I stopped playing regularly because I was resorting to hints for every level. It's still good though, and it's nice to not play a game where the whole premise is "go to that bit of the map, kill a man, pick up things, go back again" - but I'm just feeling like I'm wasting my time now. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Mon 13 Jan 2020 - 21:47 | |
| Aw. I can relate, mind. The puzzles are so rewarding to solve, but that relies in the time spent thinking/resolution trade-off being right. As the game goes on that trade-off skews. Must try The Witness. Must must must. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 14 Feb 2020 - 19:25 | |
| Is it another Balla Failed to Finish Double Bill? If it wasn't, would I have asked such a leading question? - DRAGON QUEST XI [insert daft subtitles here]:
I'm quite sad and disappointed about this one. When I turned it on and was greeted by the orchestral rendition of the Dragon Quest theme, and the cinematic, I was hooked. I'd just come off a couple of small indie games and I was all the way up for a big open JRPG. This seemed like it was going to deliver in spades. The fun... trickled out over time, mostly because it felt like DQXI was trying to be something it wasn't. With big open landscapes and monsters running around, it inspired thoughts of an ecosystem-like world in the vein of the Xenoblade games. Turns out, that was all window-dressing. You can't go and explore the magnificent landscapes: the only thing they do is make it harder to find the three or four items that have been scattered across them. Meanwhile the monsters herald the most traditional, unadventurous, downright dull turn-based battles seen in a modern game. When that dawned on me, a process that took a while, I was really disappointed. It would almost have been better to play in 2D Mode, except then you get random battles: at least it wouldn't have felt like a sham. I think that Dragon Quest needs to freshen up its formula massively before I go anywhere near it again.
- BASTION:
At the other end of the spectrum, Bastion was only ever on my wishlist because of all the critical acclaim it garnered at the time, and only bought because it was 90% off or something. It looked nice, and the visual gimmick of the land assembling under your feet was interesting. Nothing else really grabbed me though: the combat was fine and occasionally quite annoying, the levels were serviceable, the music non-offensive. It just didn't do enough to distinguish itself from the cavalcade of other games releasing around the same time (this was in September). I might have kept on with it regardless, but the game's big selling point was the narrator talking about everything you did. He got right on my nerves. He made me feel pressured to move faster so that he didn't talk about 'kid' lazing about; and he had some 'helpful' comments upon my deaths. He turned it from a slightly above experience into a bang-or-slightly-below average experience, and in doing so killed the game for me.
Nothing too offensive there, I don't think. Anyway, must press on with the three other JRPGs I have on the go. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 14 Feb 2020 - 22:32 | |
| I finished Dragon Quest XI and Bastion, and, yeah, you aren't missing much. I've also completed those other three JRPGs you're saying you'll play - they're not up to much either. Destruction Derby 2 though, that's a quality game, you should go complete that |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sat 15 Feb 2020 - 9:24 | |
| But one of them's your favourite's favourite! |
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
Posts : 1556 Points : 1560 Join date : 2015-05-06 Age : 32 Location : Reading, UK
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Mon 17 Feb 2020 - 10:18 | |
| Agree on not actually liking the Bastion narrator. Well, I did, for about 10 minutes. The novelty wore off quick |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 18 Feb 2020 - 19:45 | |
| Quite pissed off not to finish MONKEY BARRELS on Switch, as it's an enjoyable game with lots to like. It's a twin-stick shooter from the makers of Kirby's Epic Yarn and Yoshi's Crafted World, with loads of inventive weapons, a catchy soundtrack and a distinctive art style (think what the best-looking GBA game might look like...this is that). It's addictive too - I've put more time into it than a lot of my Switch games. What's stopped me from finishing it is the difficulty: it's surprisingly difficult, and it's not afraid to boot you very, very hard in the bollocks. It's reached a point where I can't win. I came very close to finishing it too, just two levels away. But, I just can't beat this boss I'm stuck on. I'm giving up after about thirty tries. Despite all it's qualities though, I'm not sure how much I'd recommend it. If this was on Wii U, it would be an insta-buy. But, on Switch, there's honestly about a hundred games I'd suggest you download instead. Hmm. |
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
Posts : 1556 Points : 1560 Join date : 2015-05-06 Age : 32 Location : Reading, UK
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 19 Feb 2020 - 11:36 | |
| That's the game that looks suspiciously like a reskinned Splatoon project |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 19 Feb 2020 - 23:37 | |
| - Balladeer wrote:
I might have kept on with it regardless, but the game's big selling point was the narrator talking about everything you did. He got right on my nerves. He made me feel pressured to move faster so that he didn't talk about 'kid' lazing about; and he had some 'helpful' comments upon my deaths. He turned it from a slightly above experience into a bang-or-slightly-below average experience, and in doing so killed the game for me. Oh wow, I can't say that I felt like that at all! I thought the little comments about "lazing about" were brilliantly charming and because there was no real consequence to triggering those lines from the narrator, I can't say I felt "pressured to move faster" in the least. Still, I will say that Bastion was far weaker than Transistor in my eyes which I adored, whereas Bastion lived on its music, story, narration and overall atmosphere as opposed to the gameplay. Transistor had all of the aforementioned features locked down and was still dead fun to play to boot. RE: Dragon Quest - Aye, that's a series that is unashamedly old fashioned in its battling. Say what you will about some of the later Final Fantasy games, but at least they changed the formula up in a big way. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 21 Feb 2020 - 14:38 | |
| Don't think DQ will change be that better or worse depending on your view On Xbox, you often have quests which give reward points which can then be turned into credit for instance. Recently they had a quest to play Sea of Thieves along with play a Game Pass game, unlock an achievement in a Game Pass game and so on. That I thought why not give SoT another go from when I played in the BETA and when it had no content compared to now with story quests & the like, as it must be doing something right to have had 10m+ players and one of the games always in the monthly most-played chart. I want to like SoT as it seems like it might be cool but when I was paired up with three others, no one seemed to be doing what we should be. Now you might be going Mas but I want to have fun and sure, just after 30mins only so much you can do with the other players seem to aimlessly not doing a lot. I then tried to play by myself in a small ship, just seems like a lot to do by yourself on sailing round. I feel that there is a good game here, just I think you need mates even though people have said it's a great community. Just mine on Xbox, had the first impressions of the beta and no content to begin with for them to go back. Hopefully, Everwild which is using the same engine can learn from the mistakes of SoT. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 21 Feb 2020 - 19:02 | |
| An unsurprising victim to human nature, that. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 27 Mar 2020 - 19:40 | |
| I've been doing bits and pieces within the Stadia Community mainly for Stadia Source which I guess is like the Nintendo Life of Stadia web pages. Well Kine was reviewed by one of the team who gave it 10/10, it's the game that made us change review scores from numbers and introduced a little mascot Anyway, due to this glowing review when Kine went on sale, I decided to buy Kine and it's not very good maybe a 6/10 at best if giving scores. Why I've not finished and I'm near the end is because of the huge difficulty spike, which other reviews do mention when having a quick look. The last few puzzles, just make me want to pull my hair out. |
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gjones Disciple of Scullion
Posts : 1671 Points : 1704 Join date : 2015-01-12 Age : 37 Location : Swindon
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Mon 30 Mar 2020 - 23:38 | |
| Stardew ValleyI'm 20 (game) days into this and it's boring as sin. I'm positive this type of game isn't for me, but does it change much outside of growing vegetables and hassling locals? It does a lot of things, but not particularly well (the cave combat makes me want to play Steamworld Dig, for example). I fear it's a game that just won't click (much like Animal Crossing doesn't really do anything for me - burn me at the stakes!). I need more game in my game |
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Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
Posts : 4921 Points : 4933 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 32 Location : The South
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 31 Mar 2020 - 8:33 | |
| I still maintain that Stardew valley is a poor homage to Animal Crossing/Rune Factory at best and it controls so poorly that even the farming loses any sense of satisfaction, but it does sound more like you’re not into the genre |
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
Posts : 1556 Points : 1560 Join date : 2015-05-06 Age : 32 Location : Reading, UK
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 1 Apr 2020 - 11:24 | |
| I've never got on with Harvest Moon so I know I wouldn't get on with Stardew
The art style being ugly as sin doesn't help either |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 1 Apr 2020 - 13:33 | |
| Add me to the list of folk who didn’t click with Stardew Valley. I’d set myself up for a big RPG epic before I downloaded it, so I felt like I knew what I was getting into. I quite liked the older Harvest Moon games too, especially on the Game Boy. Stardew Valley though, as much as I liked it’s atmosphere and peacefulness, just took too long to get going. After about fifteen hours, I didn’t really feel like I’d gotten anywhere at all, not even in the slightest. What I experienced of the farming, mining and friendship-making was complex and ungratifying too. I cut my losses with Stardew Valley, deleted it off my phone and won’t probably go back to it again. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 1 Apr 2020 - 19:30 | |
| This must be the biggest collection of Stardew Valley haters I've seen on the Internet. Everybody else seems to adore it, including Jas' fave podcast hosts. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 1 Apr 2020 - 19:37 | |
| Was actually going to say you've got very similar taste to Cappa, gJones as he likes game games but still keen on Animal Crossing.
I also wasn't keen on Stardew Valley which I have on Switch. |
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The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11972 Points : 12064 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 1 Apr 2020 - 20:55 | |
| - Balladeer wrote:
- This must be the biggest collection of Stardew Valley haters I've seen on the Internet. Everybody else seems to adore it, including Jas' fave podcast hosts.
Think you have me confused with someone else as I barely listen to podcasts. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
Posts : 4637 Points : 4663 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 42 Location : Milton Keynes
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Sun 5 Apr 2020 - 16:42 | |
| I quite like Stardew Valley, but I'm playing it online with a mate, so we've been farming and exploring. I think I'd struggle a little bit otherwise; I tried with Harvest Moon on the SNES, but struggled to maintain a profit, and "wooing" someone is always always clunky and embarrassing in videogames. Also I'd say that, in the late-game, there are a couple of weird mystery questy things to explore, which I sort of like in a job simulator. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24018 Points : 24418 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 11:37 | |
| I did just roll the credits in ACNH but it isn't a game you can finish and I have lots more I still want to do, as now that I can lay paths for instance which is really slow and annoying, and soon when I have enough miles make new cliffs etc I think it was Balla said about will we still be playing in a months time but for now I've put in 45hrs which is about 10hrs more than New Leaf which I felt I was done with at the amount of time where I'm not. Also, I've played for 21 days I think in a row based on the nook mile stamp for talking to all the villagers each day then you have the social aspect even the online can be annoying but even chatting about turnips has been great. Might be right game at the right time, just if I was reviewing this properly for someone then I would be past what those would be basing the reviews on and like them this has been a great game so far and I'm glad I got a Switch (Lite has been super for this as I prefer holding then a Classic and the hour here and there has been excellent) again for it and I may as go as far as saying best game on Switch along with being the real Killer App for the Switch. |
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