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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Mon 22 Jun 2020 - 19:14 | |
| I think it's at the point, almost three months deep, where I can make a judgement on Animal Crossing: New Horizons. I'd say it's the best Animal Crossing experience I've had, despite not quite knowing whether that's more because of the game or the situation (lockdown, The Lady getting it, lack of other big games etc.). I still have the same issues with it that I've had with most of the games in the series, and it's never going to make my top X games of all time, but it's been beautiful and calming and at least initially it's much better paced. I've even picked up some of the terraforming, despite never liking creative stuff in games.
It's settled into a bit of a grind at this point that I'm constantly questioning whether I enjoy, and I reckon I'm a big game away from dropping it for good; but I've enjoyed my time with ACNH more than I expected to and don't regret picking it up. I'm aware that this is damning with faint praise, but it's not 'my sort' of game/thing, I came into it brimming with reluctance, and I've been pleasantly surprised. |
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Muss Shiny Shuckle
Posts : 2557 Points : 2575 Join date : 2015-04-03 Location : The 5th Dimension
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Mon 22 Jun 2020 - 23:51 | |
| I dropped off of Animal Crossing a while ago, just kind of suddenly topped playing. It was nice while it lasted though and I'm probably only an event I'm interested in away from getting invested in it again. |
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Kriken Layton's Apprentice
Posts : 286 Points : 286 Join date : 2019-02-06
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 23 Jun 2020 - 1:43 | |
| Another one for Animal Crossing, which I got bored of. Sold it for same price I got it for though, so no regrets.
Ultimately, I guess it wasn't enough of a departure from previous entries for me. It's probably the best entry but it feels like I've experienced enough of the game through Wild World and New Leaf.
Also never got to play it online because my NSO expired a few months ago and I didn't want to resub. Made things a bit more of a grind since I couldn't exploit the turnip market. Didn't want to buy online just for that. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 23 Jun 2020 - 8:20 | |
| I'm still dipping in every day and playing a little and having a lovely time, but I understand that the core AC thang is not to everyone's tastes. I'm glad some of you got a little more fun from this time than you might otherwise have. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Tue 23 Jun 2020 - 12:20 | |
| Same as Buskalilly, really. I made the judgement on New Horizons a couple of months ago, which is that I think it's one of the best games I've ever played. |
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Rum Disciple of Greener
Posts : 1492 Points : 1508 Join date : 2013-01-20 Age : 33 Location : Edinburgh
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Wed 24 Jun 2020 - 17:11 | |
| I think I've played New Horizons every day since I got it at launch, so that's over 3 months straight now. Quite a lot of short sessions, but I think that's helped me not overindulge and give up on it. That and being on furlough for the vast majority of that time... |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Thu 25 Jun 2020 - 19:10 | |
| I'm trying to use that formula, and for a while it's worked pretty well, but now even a little bit a day sometimes feels like a chore. Sometimes it doesn't though - and typically, it's not long after I start moaning that Nintendo announce something new and it makes me a little more excited than I was. - The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
- Same as Buskalilly, really. I made the judgement on New Horizons a couple of months ago, which is that I think it's one of the best games I've ever played.
This genuinely surprises me though. If you're so inclined, could I ask for a bit more detail on why you think this? I understand why people love Animal Crossing more than I do, but because of what I feel are inherent contradictions in the game's formula, I can't currently see how any Animal Crossing could be truly top tier. I'd like to be enlightened. - More on those contradictions:
I reckon everybody's a bit sick of my negativity, so I've tried to keep my posts on this subject light and fluffy. And I do like ACNH - I'd give it a 7/10 or 8/10 depending on the day, which is to me a good game! Hence this spoiler, basically.
Animal Crossing is, as I see it, a game that is designed to be consumed in small regular doses, like Rum's been doing. I don't think too many here would dispute that. You're meant to come back to it for months and months after you pick it up - why else would there be monthly events, monthly fish and bugs, for a whole calendar year? I don't think this is deniable.
The contradiction arises because repetition sets in in a big way. This is almost unavoidable if you have a non-multiplayer non-questline game that's designed to last for months, and it's this unavoidability that's why I struggle to see an Animal Crossing as one of anyone's favourite games at this point. As you play an Animal Crossing game and the months stretch on, you see the same lines being parrotted time and again by the same and different villagers. How many times has Gulliver called his communicator 'handy-dandy' on your watch? How many times has a villager told you they 'feel like a million Bells today, [catchphrase']? These interactions are essential to Animal Crossing's core, because without them it would be a rather soulless collect-a-thon - yet surely, at some point during an Animal Crossing game's expected playtime, they must gall to anyone?
I can't see a way of avoiding this, because game space, writing time, and development budget are all limited quantities. So you get Animal Crossing: a franchise that wants you to come back month after month, yet over the course of those months will drive certain phrases, behaviours, and interactions into the absolute ground, out of necessity. I see this as a fundamental flaw in what Animal Crossing is and wants to be.
This is my view, and it seems pretty objective to me. I am genuinely keen to see why I'm wrong, and why these things don't matter to people. Is it just my impatience, and while these do wear on Cappa it's after a year not three months? Does he/do you not find them problematic at all? If not, why not? I can't see outside my personal bubble right now, and I don't like it.
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 4:13 | |
| Sonic The HedgehogDuring some recent chat about Crash Bandicoot, the question of whether Sonic was ever decent came up again. I've also been enjoying Sonic The Comic The Podcast, and recently I saw the Sonic movie. I decided to finally go back and try Sonic the Hedgehog with an open mind and fresh set of eyes. Zone 1? Stunning. Iconic music. Gorgeous visuals. Fun, fast gameplay. Phenomenal. Zone 2 onwards? Slow. Frustrating. Gash. This game was like 7 years after Super Mario Bros. Not only is it not as good, it doesn't compete. I've heard the game is fun if you play the levels over and over until you've memorised them and can bash through them fast. Maybe that was good if you were a young child with abusive parents who bought you this instead of a Nintendo, but I'm a grown man who can pick and choose what videogames I play. Why would I choose Sonic when Mario exists. Mario holds Sonic on the floor and pisses in his mouth and Sonic says thank you. It is an absolute joke that people used to think of this as a rivalry. This is a rivalry like SNamer has a rivalry with Reddit. Shite. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 5:29 | |
| Where's my boo this man button |
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gjones Disciple of Scullion
Posts : 1671 Points : 1704 Join date : 2015-01-12 Age : 37 Location : Swindon
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 10:17 | |
| - Buskalilly wrote:
- Sonic The Hedgehog
Mario holds Sonic on the floor and pisses in his mouth and Sonic says thank you.
Shite. I'm now wondering what Mario would do to poor Alex Kidd, Ristar, Vectorman et al. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
Posts : 6742 Points : 6905 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 105 Location : East of Mombasa
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 12:26 | |
| Parts of Sonic 1 are slow and frustrating, but you've outed yourself as a massive Tory with the rest of that review, Buskalilly. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 13:49 | |
| I've got to agree with Buska there - I've never had a fun time playing Sonic 1 outside of Green Hill Zone. The later zones just serve to highlight my issues with 2D Sonics - the jarring change of pace from zipping along through the levels to ploddingly slow and frustrating platforming does nothing to endear the game to me. Shite. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 13:52 | |
| - The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
- Parts of Sonic 1 are slow and frustrating, but you've outed yourself as a massive Tory with the rest of that review, Buskalilly.
I level skipped to every zone and they were all fuckery. Also, as a kid my nan had a Sega, my dad had a PS1 and I didn't have a console until the Gamecube. |
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gjones Disciple of Scullion
Posts : 1671 Points : 1704 Join date : 2015-01-12 Age : 37 Location : Swindon
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 14:39 | |
| - Buskalilly wrote:
- The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
- Parts of Sonic 1 are slow and frustrating, but you've outed yourself as a massive Tory with the rest of that review, Buskalilly.
I level skipped to every zone and they were all fuckery.
Also, as a kid my nan had a Sega, my dad had a PS1 and I didn't have a console until the Gamecube. Your nan sounds wicked - my nan had Rummikub, Upwords and ruddy Backgammon. New thread idea: Were your family gamers? |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 14:42 | |
| Still the Mega Drive was the right choice over SNES even discounting Sonic, in Europe, because we didn't get half the games on the SNES so no Final Fantasy VI but did get Phantasy Star IV. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 14:56 | |
| - gjones wrote:
- Your nan sounds wicked
She's great. Until I was five and my mother and I moved out of her house, I spent all day with her watching Schwarzenegger films which were definitely not appropriate. - Quote :
- New thread idea: Were your family gamers?
DO IT! |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 14:57 | |
| - masofdas wrote:
- Still the Mega Drive was the right choice over SNES even discounting Sonic, in Europe, because we didn't get half the games on the SNES so no Final Fantasy VI but did get Phantasy Star IV.
Did Mega Drive have Super Metroid and Super Mario World? Nah? Fuck it then. |
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gjones Disciple of Scullion
Posts : 1671 Points : 1704 Join date : 2015-01-12 Age : 37 Location : Swindon
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 15:28 | |
| I had a Mega Drive at the time, but I accept that the SNES is the better system. The catalogue has aged better. If we was to make a decisive Top 10 Games across both systems, I think only Streets of Rage 2 and Gunstar Heroes would hold their own alongside Super Metroid and A Link to the Past.
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Kriken Layton's Apprentice
Posts : 286 Points : 286 Join date : 2019-02-06
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 15:44 | |
| To be honest even a lot of Sonic fans will admit the first Sonic game isn't that good. Most will say their favourite is Sonic 2 or Sonic 3 & Knuckles. It's rare that they'll say it's Sonic 1.
Sonic 2 is a big improvement but it also sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth because the latter part of the game is pretty garbage. Whenever I play it I tend to stop at Metropolis Zone because that's where the fun stops. Not a great zone, and then it's followed by an autoscroller and Wing Fortress Zone which is okay. And then the final boss just isn't fun to fight.
There's also Aquatic Ruin Zone which is fun but only as long as you stick to the top route. Below it's a water level and I've never liked the water sections in Sonic games. They only became bearable to me in Sonic 3K. It's nice to have different routes, but not when you have to choose between fun and not fun.
But I think Sonic 3 & Knuckles is brilliant.
It took a while to get its hooks in me, but I was very satisfied with what I had played when it all wrapped up. I feel llike it just fixes everything that's wrong with the previous two classic games, and improves on everything: the graphics, music and variety.
It rolls back a bit on the speed focus of Sonic 2, but the platforming and 'puzzle' sections have a much better flow to them than they did in Sonic 1 and Sonic CD.
As for how it compares to the 'classic' Mario games, while I've played SMB1 a lot, I only really rate SMB3 and Super Mario World which are great games and which I would consider to be better than the classic Sonic games - but not Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Just my opinion, though. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 15:50 | |
| I agree in 2020 SNES is better due to things like easier access to its library and are we really going back playing sports games? Where in the 90's likes of the sports games and RPG'S on Mega Drive would be a massive plus for the library. |
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The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11972 Points : 12064 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 22:44 | |
| I've never played a Sonic game so can't comment on any of this, apart from: who is truly more Tory, Mario or Sonic? On the one hand, in a world where everyone can jump super-high Mario doesn't have any special skills, so is more of a meritocratic hero than Sonic (who got where he was by winning the genetic lottery on speed); on the other hand, Mario spends his time propping up the monarchy, while Sonic tries to save less able animals from a despot. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 22:57 | |
| - The_Jaster wrote:
- Let's be honest neither of the two of them beat the Amiga.
I saw a CD32 today but it was £200 and umm they're not great. Did see another retro system which is also a tad expensive but isn't as shite as you would think, I'm seeing if I can get some extra funds for it. Balla do we need to bring back do you even like video games? As Sonic has some great games on Nintendo systems and if I knew this I wouldn't be recommending Super Lucky but you for you to experience some gaming history. |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 23:01 | |
| Remember Mas, I don't like old games. It is kind of what Buska's talking about that's always put me off the more recent offerings though - that and not liking the character at all. I don't see how the constant, apparently jarring changes in pace can make for a fun experience. (Side note: asked for NSLT as a birthday gift.) |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Last game you DIDN'T finish and your thoughts Fri 10 Jul 2020 - 23:06 | |
| Might have been some weaker games in the series as of late on Nintendo & just in general but at the time not even going back to play the classics you would have had on GameCube Adventure 2, Heroes, All the GBA games, the DS ones and Colours on Wii those are all good games |
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