Wrestling Discussion Thread

The_Jaster wrote:

Oh I'd also argue that we only have 4 definite faces in there which are Christian, Sheamus, Orton & RVD then Punk is still technically heel by association with Heyman & Kane/Bryan are in a weird limbo week in & week out.

I guess you could say Punk is a tweener, but Kane and D-Bry are still surely faces? And we don't know if RVD will debut as a heel or a face - him coming out with Paul Heyman would surely mean heel RVD?

Masofdas - I reckon AJ will be facing some NXT Divas soon - Paige is surely ready for a call-up.

It definitely seems like an all heel and all face affair, although Fandango was on the verge of turning face before the concusion I think as well as any of Bryan, Kane and Orton potentially turning heel, my money is on Bryan turning heel, winner wise I think it might be Orton's time. The winner of the WHC match is anyone's guess though, Ambrose is the only one I can see winning at this moment in time but I don't think he actually will.

JayMoyles wrote:

The_Jaster wrote:

Oh I'd also argue that we only have 4 definite faces in there which are Christian, Sheamus, Orton & RVD then Punk is still technically heel by association with Heyman & Kane/Bryan are in a weird limbo week in & week out.

I guess you could say Punk is a tweener, but Kane and D-Bry are still surely faces? And we don't know if RVD will debut as a heel or a face - him coming out with Paul Heyman would surely mean heel RVD?

Masofdas - I reckon AJ will be facing some NXT Divas soon - Paige is surely ready for a call-up.

I was thinking an RVD/Heyman reunion could happen but when they've been showing the RVD highlight reel to the live raw crowds its been nothing but loud cheers, so I think it'd be difficult to debut him as a heel.

I'll always remember this date and the year for personal reasons, but I'll also never forget staying up for the most pedestrian episode of RAW to that point...then seeing this happen. I was gobsmacked.



Eight years ago already! Such an exciting summer in wrestling.

Ahhh I remember that! Brilliant stuff

Led to that hilarious match at SummerSlam where Michaels acted like every punch from Hogan was like a bullet to the head, right?

So I just finished watching RAW - the highlight without a doubt was the Wyatt Family debut with an excellent promo leading into their entrance, which gave me goosebumps bit of a shame that some folk had to try and ruin it with Husky Harris chants.

Also I totally didn't expect Kane to be their target but it makes perfect sense when you think about it.

I don't get the hype around The Wyatt Family. Don't get me wrong, the entrance was original and it's a fantastic repackage effort, but as the audience rightly noted it's still just Husky Harris. They'll be losing to Randy Orton and the rest by the end of the summer. I don't see where this can go, particularly as it's so soon after The Shield.

Bray Wyatt is nothing like Husky Harris at all, for one he's already spoken more as Bray than he ever did as Harris.

Also from his NXT matches his whole in ring style/persona is totally different, I think if handled right he can be a massive main event player in the future.

Wonder if Kane will be out of the MITB match now with an "injury" after that? Brilliant debut - I had proper chills when they transitioned from the vignette to their entrance. I still reckon they should have had Bray cut a promo - his mic work is one of the huge parts of the gimmick.

Hmm he could be but who would replace him? Especially if they still want to call it the All star MiTB match.

They either leave him out, or give the spot to whoever wins out of Ryback and Jericho, we need a reason to care about that match.

I agree with dusty

Dusty Knackers wrote:

They either leave him out, or give the spot to whoever wins out of Ryback and Jericho, we need a reason to care about that match.

Can't believe I didn't think about the latter. Makes so much damn sense.  

Just found out in the cricket thread that this is fake

Phillips wrote:

Just found out in the cricket thread that this is fake

After all that match fixing malarkey it's less fake than cricket.

I wasn't all that excited about the Wyatt Family debut, it just seemed a bit too dragged out not only over the last few weeks but even over the space of that one show and I'm unsure where they're gonna go with them too.

Kane's officially out of MitB.

The suggestions for who to replace him in that WWE.com article are horrid. I reckon Dusty's prediction will ring true.

It can't be anyone but Bray Wyatt, in my opinion. It's just about explainable storyline-wise, and there's no chance WWE will wheel in anyone who's a bigger star than RVD. Nobody's going to steal RVD's thunder, not in Philadelphia, and WWE surely won't risk that.

JayMoyles wrote:

Kane's officially out of MitB.

The suggestions for who to replace him in that WWE.com article are horrid. I reckon Dusty's prediction will ring true.

I think WWE.com have hit the nail on the head, it'll be Hulk Hogan

Can any, or all of you, the fans of 'wrestling', please explain to me why you like it? I for the life of me don't get it at all. Forget the fact that it is clearly big bloke ballet and scripted within an inch of its life, but more importanty, the 'characters' are just so horribly stupid and not in the slightest bit entertaining. Knowing it is a sweaty soap opera, what is the atttraction? Just looking at the 'fans' during an advertisement for it makes me cringe, as it is below base levels of human endeavour when it is clear they do believe it is real.

Sorry for any offence given here, but it is impossible to express a view without it.

I don't really know to be honest oldschool, I don't think any of us are below base levels of human endeavor.

I kinda grew up on wrestling where the characters were larger then live and just continued watching. my opinion on wrestlers etc have changed as i used to like the silly ones but now huge fan of CM Punk etc who can wrestle and is brilliant performer. When watching a show on TV i record and fast forward it to watch the match's i really want to watch with wrestlers whom can actually perform and skilled at there art.

I feel the same as you with people whom watch the stuff like TOWIE, jersey shore as it's suppose to be real but is clearly fake with idiots going out partying getting drunk etc but i know lots of people seem to watch it all the time and go to clubs when they have a "STAR" from one of these shows there.

I don't know if you have seen the film the wrestler, even if your not a wrestling fan worth a watch. Even it's Hollywood you might understand about wrestling a bit more.

Ive also been watching it since a I was a kid and back then it mattered who won & lost but now I purely love it for the technical aspect of the matches & how those manage to tell a story (not every match achieves this) and apart from that I don't really know what to say.

A documentary that may explain it better is Beyond the Mat.

(Side note: Oh also those "fans" make me cringe too )

masofdas wrote:

I don't really know to be honest oldschool, I don't think any of us are below base levels of human endeavor.

I feel the same as you with people whom watch the stuff like TOWIE, jersey shore as it's suppose to be real but is clearly fake with idiots going out partying getting drunk etc but i know lots of people seem to watch it all the time and go to clubs when they have a "STAR" from one of these shows there.

Don't get me wrong, as I hate virtually any form of 'reality' television, which is anything but reality.  Jersey Shore and the Essex ones appear to be the amongst the worst.  Just watching The Soup stuns me with all the crap that fills American television channels.  The fans of those shows aren't exactly my favourite people either.  It isn't that I am a culture snob, as I can enjoy 'stupid' television, but wrestling is just one that is just beyond my comprehension.