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Dusty Knackers Bandana Waddle Dee
Posts : 894 Points : 919 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 39 Location : West Midlands
| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Thu 19 Dec 2013 - 23:14 | |
| My favourite was CM Punk VS Brock Lesnar. It was just so damn good. Second favourite would probably be Punk and John Cena from February. There have been so many good matches in WWE this year though. Aside from the ones already mentioned, I'd like to bring up the Daniel Bryan/Antonio Cesaro match which was part of a gauntlet from Raw earlier in the year. Also the triple threat Tag Team Championship match from Hell in a Cell (I think?) between The Rhodes Bros, The Shield and The Usos, twas a corker. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Thu 19 Dec 2013 - 23:32 | |
| From an in-ring perspective, it's been a good year for WWE. It's quite indicative of the caliber of 'super-athletes' that WWE currently has under contract when someone like Curtis Axel - who, at least as far as his craft goes, is fundamentally sound - is probably regarded as one of WWE's lesser-talents. I can't remember when WWE has had a roster with wrestlers as good as Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Seth Rollins, Randy Orton and so on.
On the other hand, it's been a creatively-bankrupt year of WWE - and I partly blame that on too much of an over-reliance on bunging the likes of The Shield and The Usos in the ring for half an hour at a time. Good matches, yes, but there's no story, and nothing to draw me in. There's little reason to get invested in a lot of the matches these days. It's like they do those matches so they don't need to write a show.
I know I'm a fanny for complaining about good matches, but there's been f**k-all in the way of a good storyline since SummerSlam-time. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 20 Dec 2013 - 9:47 | |
| If were talking about matches of the year, I have this TNA Knockout match to suggest. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 20 Dec 2013 - 18:44 | |
| Ye know what? I think I'm going to have to go with Rhodes brothers vs the shield its the one thing that had everything great story build up, more than just the titles on the line, great technical ability in the ring & crowd got really invested in it.
I think it's also where wwe fully realised "oh yeah tag teams matches can be fun" |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 20 Dec 2013 - 19:07 | |
| Apparently Trips is pushing for tag-teams to be a big thing next year. If they can get anywhere near the tag-team scene in 2000/01 with the Dudleys, the Hardys, Edge and Christian, the APA and Too Cool tearing it up, then we're in for a good time. |
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Dusty Knackers Bandana Waddle Dee
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 20 Dec 2013 - 22:24 | |
| WWE have picked their 25 best matches of the year, this is what they've gone for...
1. CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - No Disqualification Match (SummerSlam 2013)
2. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan - WWE Championship Match (SummerSlam 2013)
3. The Undertaker vs. CM Punk (WrestleMania 29)
4. Cody Rhodes & Goldust (w/Dusty Rhodes) vs. Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns (w/Dean Ambrose) (WWE Battleground)
5. Daniel Bryan vs. Antonio Cesaro (Raw; July 22)
6. John Cena vs. CM Punk - No. 1 Contender's Match (Raw; Feb. 25)
7. The Undertaker & Team Hell No vs. The Shield (Raw; April 22)
8. Dolph Ziggler vs. Alberto Del Rio - World Heavyweight Championship Match (WWE Payback)
9. Team Hell No & Randy Orton vs. The Shield (SmackDown; June 14)
10. Cody Rhodes & Goldust vs. The Usos vs. The Shield - Six Man WWE Tag Team Championship Match (WWE Hell in a Cell)
11. Money in the Bank Ladder Match for a World Heavyweight Championship Contract (WWE Money in the Bank)
12. Goldust vs. Randy Orton (Raw; Sept. 9)
13. Kaitlyn vs. AJ Lee - Divas Championship Match (WWE Payback)
14. The Undertaker vs. Dean Ambrose (SmackDown; April 26)
15. Alberto Del Rio vs. Christian - World Heavyweight Championship Match (SummerSlam 2013
16. Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar - No Holds Barred Match (WrestleMania 29)
17. John Cena vs. Randy Orton - Champion of Champions Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match (WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs)
18. Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton - Street Fight (Raw; June 24)
19. Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Jericho (Raw; July 15)
20. Chris Jericho vs. CM Punk (Raw; Feb. 4)
21. CM Punk vs. Dean Ambrose (Raw; Dec. 9)
22. John Cena vs. Damien Sandow - World Heavyweight Championship Match (Raw; Oct. 28)
23. The Shield vs. The Usos - WWE Tag Team Championship Match (WWE Money in the Bank 2013 Kickoff)
24. Kofi Kingston vs. Antonio Cesaro - U.S. Championship Match (WWE Main Event; May 1)
25. The Miz vs. Wade Barrett - Intercontinental Championship Match (Raw; April 8 )
Some belters in there that I'd forgotten about. That Money in the Bank ladder match was ace, as were the matches that AJ and Kaitlyn had. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Sat 21 Dec 2013 - 6:17 | |
| Aye, I completely forgot about ADR vs Christian that was a really enjoyable match especially when they didn't have much of a story to feed off. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Sat 21 Dec 2013 - 10:40 | |
| I still maintain Summerslam was the best PPV of the year, minus that blemish of Bray Wyatt vs Kane. EDIT: HUGE HUGE SPOILERS DON'T CLICK UNLESS YOU WANT SOMETHING HUGE SPOILED - Spoiler:
Batista is returning in February. http://pwinsider.com/article/82325/major-major-name-returning-to-wwe-.html?p=1
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Dusty Knackers Bandana Waddle Dee
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Sun 22 Dec 2013 - 18:58 | |
| I think we all know or have heard what that spoiler is, can't say I'm particularly thrilled, was never a fan of his, and he's not really all that great. Oh well... |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Sun 22 Dec 2013 - 19:00 | |
| My bet is on a Rumble return. Him, Jericho, Sheamus, RVD, they'll all return at the Rumble. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Mon 23 Dec 2013 - 5:32 | |
| The return is this guy, right? |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Mon 23 Dec 2013 - 12:58 | |
| Nah, it's this guy: |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Mon 23 Dec 2013 - 15:23 | |
| Possibly reading way too much into this but Paige recently tweeted a pic of him & her. ( he was in his wrestling gear) |
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Dusty Knackers Bandana Waddle Dee
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Mon 23 Dec 2013 - 19:35 | |
| He's a trainer in NXT (not sure if permanent of temporary). |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Mon 23 Dec 2013 - 22:41 | |
| Yeah, him, Billy Gunn, Regal - they're all involved down at NXT. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Tue 24 Dec 2013 - 8:02 | |
| Ahh I see, still seems a bit odd that he would get all dressed up in his ring gear (cape & all) to train people. |
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Tue 24 Dec 2013 - 10:54 | |
| http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/item/5351-TNA-issues-statement-on-Jeff-Jarrett
Jeff Jarrett has left TNA. That's a bit of a surprise. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Tue 24 Dec 2013 - 12:22 | |
| I thought he was head of creative over there. That is surprising though. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Thu 26 Dec 2013 - 13:51 | |
| If you want a Christmas present from WWE, watch Cesaro vs Regal on NXT this week. One of the most brutal and technically impressive matches I've seen. |
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Dusty Knackers Bandana Waddle Dee
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 15:25 | |
| According to the Wrestling Observer, as of last week, these are the planned headline matches for WrestleMania XXX... - Spoiler:
John Cena VS Bray Wyatt (believe it or not, this is the planned main event)
Randy Orton VS Batista (possibly for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship)
Brock Lesnar VS Undertaker (this seems to be a lock now)
Triple H VS CM Punk (Roman Reigns has been rumoured to face Triple H too)
Daniel Bryan VS Shawn Michaels
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The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 15:58 | |
| I'd heard about some of those as well. Going through them... - Spoiler:
There's surely no chance John Cena will fight Bray Wyatt. That's a SmackDown match at best. There's every reason why I can't imagine that match happening at Wrestlemania in any capacity.
Orton Vs Batista has been done. Personally, if I could go into fantasy booking mode for a moment, I'd like to see WWE try something more creative with Orton. They've never done a triple-threat or four-way Iron Man match before, why not do something like that with Orton, Punk, Bryan and Mysterio? Pure fantasy, of course. I'd have Big Dave come out and squash The Wyatt Family, truth be told.
Lesnar/Undertaker sounds a realistic shout. I don't think there are many viable opponents for The Undertaker at WM left. Lesnar or Cena, certainly, maybe all three of The Shield if they were rehabbed correctly, and The Rock if he was still kicking about. That's about it.
No interest in Punk against Triple H. Seen it, heard all the pseudo-shoot stuff, that's plenty.
Bryan Vs. Michaels, as appealing as that is, just doesn't seem likely. Mind you, Michaels has already returned from one retirement...of all these rumoured matches, this is the only one I'd pay to see.
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 16:24 | |
| I'd not heard about this yet - I'll do what Cappa did and give my take on them. - Spoiler:
John Cena VS Bray Wyatt
Surely not, right? For one - Wyatt isn't anywhere near established enough to take a main event role. Wrestlemania isn't the place to take a gamble like that. Mind you, we were all scoffing at the prediction of Chris Jericho vs Fandango last year, and look how that turned out...
Randy Orton VS Batista
Honestly? I don't want to see that. I'd rather see Orton defend his title against Cena, Bryan or Punk or a combination of those three. The title shouldn't be put up against part-timers.
Brock Lesnar VS Undertaker
I'd be up for this, so long as the streak doesn't end on Lesnar. Would be a brutal match, no doubt.
Triple H VS CM Punk
I'd rather see Reigns take on Haitch to be honest. Punk should be going for the title - he's been out that scene for too long.
Daniel Bryan VS Shawn Michaels
As much as I think HBK should stay retired and not pull a Ric Flair on everyone, this would be more than worth him coming out of retirement.
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 17:22 | |
| - What about:
The rumour I posted about DX v Beard and the Best surely that's more realistic. I don't want to see bray in any way at mania. So Batista winning rumble then, also what about Hogan.
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 17:40 | |
| That DX vs Punk and Bryan tag match could work. I will be seriously cross if Batista wins the Rumble. I can't see Hogan in a match - a run-in, maybe, but not a match. Goldberg could still pop up too. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Wrestling Discussion Thread Fri 27 Dec 2013 - 19:02 | |
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I think a Bray Wyatt vs Cena could work but it all depends on how its built up, I could be reaching here but it fits with the wyatt families "down with the machine" routine.
It all really depends how Bray is handled from now until April, if they have Bray vs Bryan at Royal rumble that'd be a good start.
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