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Muss Shiny Shuckle
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Wed 2 May 2018 - 13:11 | |
| Up there in my top flicks tier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Really bloody good tier Spider-Man: Homecoming Black Panther
The not bad but yeah whatever tier Ant-Man Thor 1 & 2 Cap 1 (whatever it was called)
The, it's probably in the above tier but I fell asleep during the superhero falling out bits on the two occasions I tried watching this whilst on a transatlantic flight, tier The Avengers
The, I didn't rate it tier Avengers: Age of Ultron
The Iron Man, I've seen bits of these films rather than the whole thing and without this tier my list feels small, tier Iron Man 1, 2, but not 3. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 3 May 2018 - 0:26 | |
| It's interesting that the more recent Marvel movies are ranking so highly. They've really nailed it over the last few years in my book. I'll put up my list tomorrow after I see IW one more time. |
| | | Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 3 May 2018 - 12:30 | |
| Just got back from IW a few hours ago ( as in the movie finished a few hours ago and I just got home). I'd say it was a necessary movie in the context of the MCU. - Spoilers. Like, all the spoilers:
They've basically won in every MCU movie (sure there were a few more erogenous ones like Civil War, but ultimately every movie had the good guys beat the bad guys and some sense of peace reign). We needed a movie where they lost, and with how long they've gone without a loss it needed to be a big one. And you don't get much bigger than this loss, some of the most powerful heroes are gone as are most of them in general. The last time I saw a bunch of heroes take an L this big was the anime Fate Zero (and that was a prequel to an already existing story)
The pre-snap deaths seem to be the ones that'll stick, and damn were they brutal. Loki's especially with how inglorious it was. One barely audible noise and he was gone. It set the tone of the movie perfectly from the start, with a fan favourite getting such a brutal sendoff it drilled home anyone could die.
Visions death was probably the most brutal, not necessarily because of the caved in skull, but more because of how utterly hopeless it proved the resistance was at that point. As soon as Thanos got the Time Stone it was GG, even if they had destroyed Vision's stone earlier it wouldn't have made a difference.
And so in that line of thought I'm going to say what needs to be said.
FUCK STARLORD
I'm not saying I hate him now or something, but seriously fuck him, he is literally the one who lost them the war. He's not 50% idiot, he's 99% idiot. Normally I love him for it, but when you're literally doing the one thing that loses the war to a universal supervillain then, well, fuck you man. There would have been plenty of time to punch him in the face for Gamora a minute later once the gauntlet was off. Plus if you really wanted to piss Thanos off getting the gauntlet off, well, you get the idea.
On the other end of the spectrum Thor was great, probably the MVP.
Having said all that if there's one tiny complaint I have it's that I kind of expected the movie, if you know what I mean. I think it was one plot twist away from being god tier, like Thanos accidentally being in the 50% that died or something (or perhaps his minions could have been erased by it, something). Not that the ending wasn't brilliant and bone chilling (Peter's death was just a gut puncher, a young kid gone before his time given just enough time to realise the oncoming oblivion that awaits him. chilling.), but at the same time it was so profoundly game over for the heroes that it telegraphs from a lightyear away that none of those deaths will stick.
Of course we're undoubtedly not done with the deaths Thanos is going to inflict. I can see him killing Rogers and/or Hulk by the end of Avengers 4.
Generally speaking the movie was superb. Despite how much ( godly) action there was there were plenty of good character moments and unintrusive humour, Thanos was probably the best villain they're written with a believable motivation ( that doesn't cannibalise his ruthlessness) and fantastic screen presence, the action was easily some of the best in any superhero movie with some jaw dropping special effects and choreography, and somehow despite having 20+ superheroes they managed to keep everything feeling perfectly paced and everyone got perfect amounts of screentime. It's going to be a long twelve months. |
| | | Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 3 May 2018 - 12:36 | |
| - Spoiler:
On Pete's death; I've seen lots of speculation that he took so much longer than anyone else because his spider sense told him it was coming.
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| | | Athrun888 Sheegoth
Posts : 3618 Points : 3665 Join date : 2013-01-26 Location : Holiday Bunker
| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 3 May 2018 - 19:23 | |
| - Spoiler:
Not sure how that'd stop it from working honestly. But it was cool seeing the Spidey sense in action after Homecoming's apparent lack of it (and bonus points for not doing the "world slows down for everything but Spidey" demonstration).
Been a few other places now that I'm out of spoiler isolation and one thing's kind of left me puzzled. - Major spoilers for the Titan stuff:
Namely Strange handing over the Time Stone. Now that made complete sense to me at the time, I assumed he'd realised they'd veered off the one timeline where they won sometime after the failed attempt at the gauntlet and that he'd seen the next best thing was to hand over the stone.
Yet I've seen some think that we're still on the timeline where they win (I mean being meta about it we are, but where's the fun in talking about things from the meta perspective all the time?) I was under the impression that Strange's peek into the future was about their looming fight with the Mad Titan, and I'm still convinced of that since there's a few logic fails that start cropping up otherwise.
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| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 3 May 2018 - 23:05 | |
| - Re: Titan stuff:
No, I'm certain Strange saw that letting Quill ruin the plan and giving up the Time Stone was the only way for them to win. He explicitly telegraphs it as such when he says to Stark that they're "in the end game now" and that "it was the only way." He knows that it's caused so much strife and turmoil for them but it was the only way for them to win.
After seeing IW again, I'll rank the MCU movies now! It'll get a bit muddier lower down the list, but I'm pretty sure about my top spot. I don't think I've actually seen all of Ant-Man, so I'm not ranking that. Otherwise... Thor Ragnarok Avengers: Infinity War Captain America: Civil War Spider-Man Homecoming Black Panther Captain America: The Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers Assemble Iron Man Guardian of the Galaxy: Volume 2 Dr. Strange Captain America: The First Avenger Avengers: Age of Ultron Thor Iron Man 3 The Incredible Hulk Iron Man 2 Thor 2: The Dark World |
| | | Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Fri 4 May 2018 - 0:20 | |
| - Titan:
My assumption would be that Strange saw that they can't beat Thanos until after the finger click, when he lets his guard down, and that keeping Tony alive meant the right combination of people were alive by the end to seal the deal. Or maybe he realised Thanos' plan really is the only solution to the universe' overpopulation.
- Athrun888 wrote:
- Spoiler:
Not sure how that'd stop it from working honestly. But it was cool seeing the Spidey sense in action after Homecoming's apparent lack of it (and bonus points for not doing the "world slows down for everything but Spidey" demonstration).
- Spoiler:
Not so much that it slowed it down as that he knew it was coming for longer beforehand than anyone else. Agreed that it was cool seeing the spider sense in action. I'd just guess that in the year or so of time Spidey's been active in the MCU, he's learned to better respond to his SS.
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| | | Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Wed 9 May 2018 - 15:11 | |
| Ah, right, that all makes sense. I really need to give the movie a second watch, might catch some new stuff and even if I don't it's just worth an extra viewing at the cinema for the sheer spectacle of it all. |
| | | Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Mon 14 May 2018 - 17:48 | |
| Finished The Flash Season 3This one is a strange one, because I both kind of hated but loved the season. The things I love even merged with the things I didn't, like Savitar. Ultimately I feel its problems stem from poor pacing. We bowled through Flashpoint in one episode, and while I havent read the comics even I know Flashpoint is kind of a big deal, and they could have easily spent half a season on it ( and frankly should have done just that). So we bowled through that in a single episode. Then the show bowls through Alchemy in the next seven or so. So we spend damn near most of the 22 episode season with Savitar. And don't get me wrong, Savitar was a good villain, but he wasn't nearly compelling enough to carry 16 episodes, especially when most of them didn't actually have him involved but rather focused on his impending doom. The other big problem with the season is Barry. Barry is at his best when he's allowed to be cheerful, goofy, and optimistic. So making him mope for most of those 16 episodes like his mentor/hero Oliver Queen was not the best choice of direction for the character this season. As the Savitar storyline came to a close it would have been appropriate ( for reasons you'll know if you've seen the season). But sixteen episodes of various shades of depressed Barry? Nah, didn't work. As a joke in late season one said, Team Flash are supposed to be the cheerful ones. Leave the season-long brooding to Oliver in future and only bring it into Flash when appropriate for an arc ( like Zoom's reveal and the aftermath). That said I loved the concepts of season 3. - All the spoilers:
Savitar being Barry's future Time Remnant was awesome, loved that twist. While I'm not sure going for a third season-speedster villain in a row was the best idea it was a fitting form for Barry's screwups with the Speed Force and abusing time travel to take. And while I did criticise them about having Barry brood too much in season 3 I will give them credit for the episode following Savitar's identity reveal being a light and old-school tone instead of doubling down on the gloom.
And now to twiddle my thumbs until season 4 comes out on DVD and bluray. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Fri 18 May 2018 - 16:05 | |
| Watched Batman Ninja, I saw some reviews which it got some high praise indeed but I remember Drunka saying these sort of films don't work out often. I'd put it in between those two statements personally. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 10:19 | |
| I saw Deadpool 2 last night, it's basically the same as the first and seeing a comedian telling the same jokes. That I'm not sure it's something someone needs to go see in the cinema. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:30 | |
| I wholeheartedly disagree with that. Using your comedian analogy, I'd much rather see a comedy set in a crowd than perched on my sofa watching it on-demand. You'll get so much more from laughing alongside people, and that applies to watching a comedy in a crowded cinema too.
I loved Deadpool 2. The action and stakes are on a bigger level compared to its predecessor, but what you'll be coming into it for are the jokes. They're belters - I was genuinely belly-laughing at several points in this film. I think after the incredibly high-stakes, emotional rollercoaster that was IW, it was great to watch something that subverted so many of the superhero tropes along with poking fun at the genre as a whole. Great stuff. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:35 | |
| I guess but it is like seeing the comedian this year and then next year them telling the same jokes on the tour. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:38 | |
| Hm, I honestly don't think the jokes were as samey as you're making it out to be. Scenes like... - Deadpool 2 spoilers:
the X-Force bait and switch and the baby legs bit were absolutely amazing, as were all the little jabs at the MCU and DCCU.
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| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:42 | |
| Well, I just didn't find it funny as it felt the same to me and likely the worst film I've seen this year in the Cinema. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:52 | |
| Didn't you see Ready Player One? |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 13:58 | |
| I forgot I saw that, yeah that's worse. |
| | | Muss Shiny Shuckle
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 20 May 2018 - 23:19 | |
| I enjoyed the original Deadpool - still haven't seen Avengers 3 or Thor: Ragnarock though, both much higher on my list of Marvel films to see.
I can only really stomach the Deadpool character in small doses - he's great as a guest , but I've little interest in reading a regular Deadpool comic.
A film probably wouldn't be too much for me to handle right now though, especially since it's been a good while since the original. Can't be any worse than Anchorman 2 though. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Wed 23 May 2018 - 15:17 | |
| I think what works with movie Deadpool compared to comic Deadpool is that the memetastic zaniness is toned down and he's injected with heart and character in its place. It results in more moments like this over "chimichangas, rainbows and unicorns" Deadpool. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 31 May 2018 - 11:27 | |
| Watched Gotham by Gaslight last night and I thought it was okay but really though I'd like to see more in that setting and time period.
And would like to have seen this even more now. |
| | | Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Wed 20 Jun 2018 - 9:31 | |
| I went and saw Deadpool 2 yesterday. It's an absolute banger! It has loads of X-Men stuff in it, and handles it all really well. Even without the comedy, this would actually be up there with one of the better films in the X Universe. Well worth a watch.
As for Deadpool on the whole, the problem is just that he's a comedy character who all too often is handed to comicbook writers who've never actually proven themselves as comedians in any way. Just because you can give Spidey some amusing quips between action scenes doesn't mean you can fill 22 pages with laughs every month. |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Thu 21 Jun 2018 - 12:13 | |
| The Lady and I ploughed through the Captain America trilogy, Thor Ragnarok, and Homecoming recently. Ragnarok may be one of my favourite Marvel films, while I didn't like Homecoming as much as the rest of you.
They were all good though. I think that, after the disappointment that was The Hulk, Marvel's mastered the art of the genuinely good superhero film. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Fri 20 Jul 2018 - 22:49 | |
| Has anyone caught the trailer for DC's new Teen Titans TV show? Fuck me, it looks bad. I thought that with the DCCU losing some of its grit and edginess that we might see that bleed into their other projects, but this looks like something that'd be shown as a parody in Deadpool or something. |
| | | JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 22 Jul 2018 - 17:35 | |
| Ha, double post but it's funny that I'm going to go from ripping DC a new one for Titans to praising them for Shazam. I'm not too familiar with the character, but the tone of that trailer and the overall premise seems like it's going to lend itself to a great movie. Props to DC! |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: DC, MARVEL, Dark Horse Comics / Graphic Novels, TV Shows, Movies etc Sun 22 Jul 2018 - 17:39 | |
| I kinda like the look of Aquaman but none of them looked good, Shazam looks like it's from 2003 Superhero films. |
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