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The_Jaster Din
Posts : 11972 Points : 12064 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 40 Location : Underground Corpse Pile.
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sun 20 Mar 2016 - 22:17 | |
| That's why I think a Feb/March launch is more feasible. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
Posts : 24019 Points : 24420 Join date : 2013-01-18 Age : 34 Location : VITA Island
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sun 20 Mar 2016 - 22:20 | |
| I think if I was a Nintendo share holder, I'd be fuming though for a launch around that time. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Wed 23 Mar 2016 - 22:24 | |
| Leak inbound. - NX Controller?:
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
Posts : 3618 Points : 3665 Join date : 2013-01-26 Location : Holiday Bunker
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 0:14 | |
| Saw the picture mock-up of that a couple of weeks back and I immediately dismissed them as lies, because a design like that was too stupid to be real. Or so I had thought.
I genuinely pray that this is just another fake, because that is possibly the single worst "controller" I have ever seen in my entire life. It just doesn't work on so many levels I can't see how anybody thought to give it the okay. Ignoring the lack of proper sticks for a minute which I hear can be adaptad to from steam controller users and focussing on the far bigger issues: size and lack of face buttons.
The size and shape of the controller means hand cramp central, no ifs ands or buts. Modern controllers are as large as they are for a reason; to give them a shell that allows a person to hold them for hours on end without harming ones own hands from RSI. This controller is RIS central. No proper handles, it's almost as bad for long gaming sessions as the wii remote on its side was.
The lack of buttons means one thing: touch screen buttons. I trust I don't need to point out how genuinely mind bogglingly stupid having touch screen buttons on a home console controller is. Physical buttons are a thing for a reason, a person can easily and quickly muscle memorize them and play at far FAR higher reaction speeds than they would otherwise, and it gets worse, the lack of face buttons means you'll frequently either hit the wrong button or miss the button without meaning to, forcing you to take your eyes off the game and look at the controller.
That controller seems to ignore literally any and all sense of common sense in controller design. There's being different and making it work, ala the original Wii, and then there's trying to be different to such an extent you create something genuinely moronic. Even if the NX allows for a similar "classic controller" like the Wii and U have, if this is the default controller it launches is the thing is dead on arrival.
I'm still not convinced it's real, because I don't see how a actual successful company could create something like that and think it will work, but I will admit to one thing: I'm genuinely scared now. I'm scared of the NX, and I'm concerned over Nintendo's future if this ends up real. |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 6:36 | |
| The horror of touch screen controls is something I'm still getting used to myself, so I share your concern. However, the only Nintendo controller I've ever looked at and didn't think "I'll never get used to that" was the GamePad. If the 'buttons' can be fixed in place, and the thing is super sensitive, they might just be able to pull it off. Otherwise - well, I'll never get used to that... |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 8:47 | |
| If it's genuine (which I doubt) I'm sure I'll get used to it, but... yeah, no.
EDIT: Almost certainly not genuine. |
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JayMoyles Galactic Nova
Posts : 15896 Points : 15061 Join date : 2013-01-21 Age : 31 Location : The Shibuya River
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 10:38 | |
| That's good - as much as I wouldn't mind seeing something innovative from Nintendo, that controller would be a bit much for my tastes. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 11:12 | |
| Now I don't believe that thing is the actual NX controller but if it is if anyone could make it work it'd be Nintendo, I saw this a few moments ago & it made me more interested in the concept.
I still would not be a fan of it being the main controller of the console though. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
Posts : 15082 Points : 15260 Join date : 2013-02-25 Age : 34 Location : Nagano
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 12:42 | |
| I quite liked the look of it (and I have small hands) but the no-buttons thing, the dodgy sticks, the round screen... none of it felt like somehting Nintendo would do.
That said, does anyone remember the original gamepad having 3DS circle pads? |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 12:45 | |
| Yes! And then certain websites used that out-of-date Gamepad picture for years after the actual sticked-up thing had been released... |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 19:22 | |
| Hmm see I heard it was a leak from Ubisoft, who'd you think would have a NX especially if BG&E2 is coming for the NX.
The controller does look like it's very portable.
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Thu 24 Mar 2016 - 20:12 | |
| - masofdas wrote:
- Hmm see I heard it was a leak from Ubisoft, who'd you think would have a NX especially if BG&E2 is coming for the NX.
The controller does look like it's very portable.
Same tree confirmed. EDIT: So it is fake after all. http://gonintendo.com/stories/254714-leaked-nx-controller-confirmed-fake-by-leaker-himself |
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Fri 25 Mar 2016 - 9:42 | |
| There's another rumour scotched then. Deep breaths all round. This is NX silly season. |
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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Fri 25 Mar 2016 - 16:46 | |
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Athrun888 Sheegoth
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 26 Mar 2016 - 9:17 | |
| Thank f*** that rumour was taken out back and shot in the head, although I still worry. This is Nintendo after all. They are stupid and genius in equal measure. |
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ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
Posts : 10465 Points : 9425 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 44 Location : North Midlands, England
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 26 Mar 2016 - 9:26 | |
| There's a fine line between genius and insanity, they say. Nintendo dance around the line like a Christmas party drunk. |
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Jimbob Bargain Hunter
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 26 Mar 2016 - 10:31 | |
| The biggest clue is that the hoaxer made their thing look exactly like Nintendo's patent. Patent drawings are deliberately designed to be as simplistic as possible, so that the patentee can claim ownership of a wide variety of potentially similar designs/mechanics. Nintendo aren't going to make their controller look like the 1992 Red Dot design aware for Best Gravy Boat, and then have developers design UIs - or even game screens as the first image tried to show - fit that impractical shape. |
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 26 Mar 2016 - 11:14 | |
| I think it says more about people on the internet who believed it to be true than it does about Nintendo, while they aren't immune to making mistakes just look at the great innovations Nintendo have made when it comes to controllers.
For that reason alone I found most people's reactions to this absolutely hilarious. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 9 Apr 2016 - 13:35 | |
| - NX Software rumors:
We have rumors from Miss Rodgers, she posted the stuff about Zelda U yesterday and now she has even more and this time directly linked to the NX software.
Shes goes on about how shes doesn't know about the hardware of the NX but does about the software, she has heard from her sources (I will post else where about that) that there is FOUR ports/remasters/hd version of Wii U games coming to the NX.
Shes doesn't say which four as she doesn't know, me and Fronk have been tweeting and reading a few others as well as a rumor from a long time ago.
One maybe is Super Smash Bros for NX which we have heard about for a while and sort of makes to bring over just for likes of Evo but does beg the question will the NX work with GameCube controllers.
Next ones we talked about is Super Mario Maker, Splatoon and Mario Kart 8. Fronk thinks the last two are unlikely as theirs bound to be a Mario Kart 9 for instance which I can agree with Splatoon not so much as I see that with all these updates etc as more online of Destiny etc as a online service also it's dam popular.
Fronk didn't say what four games he thinks but from his tweet I'm guessing he agrees with SMASHNX and SMM, a game he did bring up was Xenoblade Chronicles X as there is a direct sequel in works (I didn't know this) and with it only finding a audience of 800k that they may need to get there money back also imagine if the NX is PS4 Specs what XCX may run and look like.
This does sort of signals the NX won't be backwards compatible if true with the Wii U which also explains Zelda coming out on both, I'm okay with this myself as I'll be keeping the Wii U just for the Zelda games on it and I think it's about time Nintendo kill the Wii brand and start a fresh and means that they use something like X86 to run the NX.
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
Posts : 26468 Points : 25302 Join date : 2013-01-16 Age : 35 Location : Admintown
| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 20:44 | |
| So NL have done a piece on some rumours regarding the NX controller and "a major game project". In light of the recent talk on leaks, keep any discussion in clearly labelled spoilers. I only scrolled part of the way through the article, and only saw the controller "gimmick" (because I'm quite concerned about that), so I'm only going to talk about and only want to read about that ta. Kudos, by the way, to NL in the way they've displayed this. Unrevealing title, no hints in subtitle (but specifically stating spoilers), breaks in the article below which people can choose not to read if they've mis-clicked... this is how reporting of leaks should be handled. Or "leaks", because it could still all be tripe. - NX controller ONLY:
So the controller, backed up by three sources (the chap, the chap's mam, and some guy down the pub quite possibly), apparently uses improved Gamepad tech to do a Vita, allowing streaming of NX games anywhere.
How that "anywhere" will work is anyone's guess. Wi-Fi presumably. Not everywhere has Wi-Fi though, so it's not really "anywhere", is it? I couldn't play on my NX on the train going through the middle of the countryside, could I? Not without paying the chuffing (ha!) rail company for the privilege.
Nonetheless, this is the least objectionable method of hybridisation that I could hope for. It doesn't rely on the power of the handheld to run the games, which means no sacrificing home console games in terms of scope to shoe-horn them into a less powerful machine. For this reason, and seeing as I've predicted a hybrid (see predictions thread), I hope this "leak" is correct.
I haven't mentioned the apparent game reveal and am happy to remain in the dark about that, please mention in your spoiler title if you're discussing it thankee. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 14:12 | |
| - Reply to Balla:
The one issue with that way of doing a hybrid, which we've been able to actually do for 2 & 1/2 years with the PS4 & VITA with remote play using Wi Fi. Is a right pain and if Nintendo are using that as a selling point and it's only something some of us will use now and again, seems naff to me.
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Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Sun 17 Apr 2016 - 21:15 | |
| I think that's more or less my spoiler's middle paragraph, isn't it? I pretty much agree with you. |
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masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 20:39 | |
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I see that but it's the last bit of the paragraph, especially the bit as you hope this leak is correct a naff way of doing what is basically glorified remote play is what can be done already on another console.
If that's the selling point of the NX and I've got to pay for the privilege to have that, you can count me out.
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The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:30 | |
| - Spoiler:
I like how simple that idea is & since you would be taking the standard controller with you there wouldn't be the problem that ps4 remote play (or a hybrid device) has with controls having to be compromised when you are using a vita.
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OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: Nintendo NX -> Nintendo Switch (Switchcraft) Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:19 | |
| - Spoiler:
It's all well and good as long as that doesn't replace a dedicated handheld from Nintendo.
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