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 The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyMon 16 Oct 2017 - 12:56

You need to send your man Andy a private message with your votes. Thumbs Up!
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyTue 17 Oct 2017 - 13:45

'Tis the way things have always been done around here. The only danger with this system is that we have to trust the person we send the votes to...

...wait.
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyFri 20 Oct 2017 - 19:32

Somehow the entire Yakuza franchise tops each category.
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyFri 20 Oct 2017 - 19:38

And Shenmue takes the retro vote
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyWed 25 Oct 2017 - 22:08

Should probably actually remind people about this, don't forget to vote! Was planning to close Friday but not had many votes so far, do we need longer?
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I keep forgetting myself but will set a reminder to make sure I do it, as far as I can tell everyone else is just gonna send it last minute.

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I just don't have to much to say, to be honest. I'll send what I can. Thumbs Up!
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Aye a wee bit more time would be nice.
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyThu 26 Oct 2017 - 19:46

Call it now Andy, everyone else will be too busy playing SMO to vote. Nah nah!
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyFri 27 Oct 2017 - 1:39

Balladeer wrote:
Call it now Andy, everyone else will be too busy playing SMO to vote. Nah nah!

I won't Sad

Can you give me the weekend at least? Sunday's the next time I have any free time at all while the sun's up.
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Yeah, that's fine, y'all can have the weekend.
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I'm really torn here cos, like, the Wii U had Twilight Princess, Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild but are any of them really Wii U games? BOTW is the best game ever but I never played it on wii u and i understand its better on Switch.
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptySun 29 Oct 2017 - 11:38

My rule was that if I'd played it on the Wii U, it was in. Andy? D'you want to weigh in?
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptySun 29 Oct 2017 - 12:18

I did bring that up about BotW but like Zero I went for games I played on Wii U which gave me two of the three Zeldas and those have been improved for the system.

If I was doing best games on Wii U and had to recommend it to someone that has never played a games console then things like Mass Effect 3, BotW, would get recommended. Said similar in my Switch review of Oxenfree and if we where doing a PS4, Xbox One vote or what not where would you put likes of The Last of Us or Halo.

I guess if you look at PC gaming where almost everything can be played you'd vote for the games you played, not what you know are good games.
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Ultimately if I have fonder memories of a game on another platform I find it naturally falls down the ranks a bit, so I just say leave it up to your gut instinct. For me I had a great time replaying TP, so that in theory could qualify, but in the past I've placed a couple of votes for multiplats that I know I would have that high if I had played on WiiU.

Thanks for the votes so far, keep them coming!
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I voted for WWHD, which I've played on the Wii U; and TPHD/BotW, which I haven't. However, I left my retail vote to games I've not played anywhere else, to try and introduce some spice to the retail/total differential.
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There I got my votes sent over, didn't go in depth too much but pleased with what I did come up with.
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That's me up to 8 including myself, hoping we'll see 1 or 2 stragglers. Keep them coming!
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PostSubject: Re: The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 EmptyTue 31 Oct 2017 - 9:32

And that's the last vote I expected, in, to reach a respectable total of 10.

I'll be totaling it all up over the next couple of days and be back soon with some results.
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Looking forward to this! Dance I wonder where some of my more offbeat picks will end up...
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Can't wait for the dishonourables... Twisted Evil
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There was supposed to be dishonourables too? Bollocks. I missed that. That's my favourite part of these things. Aww!
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Feel free to fire them over! I can always add them in as long as it's before the post goes up.
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Ooh yes, it's not a votes thread without Cappa dumping on some rubbish games!
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The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 Empty
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If there was a a worst game vote, then I might have remembered but that has the problem Balla brought up that the worst game most would have played would have still been half decent compared to Game Party.


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The Much Less Controversial Wii U is dead thread - let's be sad and have a little vote to work out which of the consoles games are better than the other games that happened to be released on the same console. Votes, Votes! VOTES! VOTEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3 Empty
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