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Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 10:53 | |
| To be fair, Muss, we played a shedload of the Wii U one in Wells. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 11:15 | |
| What you're saying what I was talking about best and favourites, little while ago.
My Top 30 (can be found elsewhere) is my favourite games played on Switch.
Yet just did a Pod of War (we need a new name) where CW bought a Switch, and we recommended him stuff like Pikmin 3 and SM3DW.
If doing same podcast for Balla for instance, those wouldn't be what we recommend as he likely played on Wii U, it be stuff like Final Fantasy X or Three Houses instead.
Different games for different people/situations.
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| | | gjones Disciple of Scullion
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 11:30 | |
| I'm interested to see how many of this Top 10 are Switch exclusives. As a system with such an excellent, vast catalog of games, does it lack an identity of its own? Now that's a bold statement and a can of worms. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 11:36 | |
| Maybe, as look how long it has taken me to warm to the Switch as I wasn't bothered about MK8D (Am now with DLC coming), SMASH, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2 even though great games.
Yet am for Pokémon Snap, Legends, Dread, Kirby, Monster Hunter Rise etc the new experiences.
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| | | gjones Disciple of Scullion
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 12:21 | |
| It's a natural byproduct of being both a wildly popular platform, and being powerful enough to support cross-platform releases. The exclusives get drowned out. Pretty much everything since the SNES (minus the first two years of GameCube), the consoles relied heavily on first-party or console exclusive releases, so you could definitively say what the best N64 games are, or the best Wii games are. As time goes on, we will more remakes and remasters/deluxes appear. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 13:06 | |
| I don't think the exclusives get drowned out, just as Muss put it, only us nerds remember the Wii U to most people that system never happened, that think if we went on the streets asking the best Switch games we'd get Mario Kart 8 a lot.
Yet what you're saying is why I've not really warmed to my PS5 or XSX (That the whole point of Xbox though all the same) as I'm just playing PS4 or ONE games that look better for the most part.
Not actual new experiences on those systems, I'm waiting for the Pokémon Snap, Legends, Dread, Kirby, Monster Hunter Rise etc of those two systems. |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 21:26 | |
| The final placings cometh. - Third Place:
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (4 votes, 30 points) You said:“It’s the biggest and best Smash has been. Always good to hop in for a few battles here and there and even with a roster as large as it is each character still feels worth playing. I’ll always have a space in my heart for Smash.” “It's rare that a game in the series perfects the formula in such a way that you genuinely don't know where they can go next, but SSBU accomplished just that in my eyes. A boost to game speed without compromising the ease of access to the game resulted in the best Smash experience to date and that roster is the stuff we could only dream about back in the Melee/Brawl days.” “EVERYONE IS HERE! I don't know where they go from here with Smash Bros because this has it all, an incredibly complete roster of fighters, fast and fluid gameplay and plenty for both single player and multiplayer options.” “Fully living up to its Ultimate moniker, it’s simply the best single player and multiplayer fighting game of all time.” I said: Yes, Smash placed, and Mario Kart didn't. We can argue until the cows come home about whether MK8D is one of the best Switch games, or merely one of the best games on Switch. Anyone reading the thread will already know my take. I didn't vote for MK8D because for me, the things it adds to the already excellent original aren't enough to make it a top 25 Switch game, let alone top 10. ("Who the fuck outside of us nerds owned a Wii U?" It's us nerds voting! And we had us nerds to play online against, plus this nerd played a bunch of local multiplayer on Wii U as well.) I didn't vote for Smash for much the same reason. To me, Smash Ultimate feels a bit like a remaster, or expanded edition, of Smash for Wii U. The gameplay felt very similar, the vast majority of the (pre-Fighter Passes) characters were already present, they added a grand total of five new stages, and the only other big addition was World of Light, a single-player campaign inferior to Brawl's from 14 years ago. Almost every game builds on those that go before, but Ultimate's core felt so similar to For Wii U's that as a Switch game, considering solely what was added for Switch, I didn't think it was worth highlighting and I don't have much love for it. And that all predates the Fighter Passes, a drawn-out process of introducing Banjo and ten anime sword fighters (or so it felt at the time) that managed the impossible: it actually made me bored of Smash reveals. All that's a lot of negativity, but as the culmination of its series rather than as a standalone game on Switch, Smash Ultimate makes my top ten of all time. I love Smash! And on the positive side regarding Ultimate itself, it introduced my most-wanted fighters following For Wii U in Ridley, Inkling, and K. Rool; the return of a proper campaign mode was much welcomed, and I spent several tens of hours on it; and any game that allows you to stick Alolan Exeggutor in the middle of the stage for a laugh deserves a place in the top ten on that alone. I simply think that games like Celeste, Hollow Knight, and even Hades added more to my gaming experience than Ultimate did given the existence of its predecessors; and it's a wee bit of a shame that nothing more original or interesting beat Ultimate to the third spot.
- Second Place:
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (5 votes, 45 points, 3 firsts) You said:“What can you say about this that hasn’t already been said? Marvellous world, great interlocking systems, fine combat, beautiful game, enough character to make this post-apocalypse feel like the start of something new. Except, that sounds like I’m giving those all equal weight. It should read: marvellous world! Truly, the best in videogames. Truly, the best game in videogames.” “Still the best thing on Switch and I can't see that changing until it's sequel comes along, every part of it is so expertly crafted and the game mechanics allow for so much freedom and experimentation to the point that people are still finding new things to do 5 years on. Simply breathtaking.” “One of the most indescribably amazing and unforgettable games any of us have played. Considering it quality of its world and gameplay, how masterfully it plays and how much there is to it, I’m truly astounded as to how good Breath of the Wild is. It’s a rare and special type of game that only comes along a couple of times a generation. Already, we can see that it’s deservedly going down in history as one of the all-time classics.” “Still unmatched in my eyes even after five years of the Switch being a thing. I still think fondly of the hours upon hours spent exploring Hyrule. Its influence has spread far and wide into other open world games too, even into this year with titles like Pokemon Legends: Arceus and Elden Ring. It's such an important game for open world games, the Zelda series and the Switch as a whole. Masterpiece.” “Time has done nothing to assuage my opinion that this is objectively the best game ever made. Over one hundred hours of delightful discovery.” I said: In before Mas goes 'I called it'. There's not much more that can be said about BotW The Game (either positive or boringly neutral) on here, so I'll save discussing its relative placing for the next spoiler box.
- And The Winner Is... (Big Shock):
Super Mario Odyssey (7 votes, 54 points, 2 firsts) You said:“I'm not actually a huge fan of a lot of Odyssey, but what it does best it does best. Mario et. Cappy is the best playing platforming protagonist ever, by some margin.” “This represents Nintendo at their absolute peak. Considering any variable by which you can measure a game’s quality – I’m talking about graphics, sound, gameplay, lifespan, mastery, fun, all that chat - Odyssey is nearly perfect. For me, the best game in the series is a three-way conversation between Super Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy and this. Odyssey is that good.” “Pure joy from start to finish, nobody does this level of bright and beautiful quite like the Mario series and Odyssey does a great job and turns it up to 11. The mix of realistic and surreal locations and characters was the best possible move they could have made after Galaxy, it allowed for plenty of memorable moments.” “There’s room for all sorts in the 3D Mario canon. 2D Mario in three dimensions, spectacle that boggles the mind, and this: Mario let off the leash. Run free, Mario, run free! And turn into a realistic frog while you’re at it!” “There's nothing quite like a Mario game firing on all cylinders, eh? Levels packed to the brim with challenges and collectables, a Mario who is a delight to control and Nintendo's trademark inventiveness and creativity at its best. Odyssey 2 please, Nintendo, I need it.” “It’s just the best, a joy from start to finish, a great adventure, so much to explore and see. I don’t have a single negative thought to give. Perfection.” I said: I wonder if this would have flipped if the remaining expected voters had voted? Ah well, that's hypothetical, and this is the fact: Odyssey is GNamer's favourite Switch game, still, four years later. And it's still a two-horse race, four years later. And SMO still benefited from everybody who voted voting for it, while some people (you all know who they are) didn't vote for BotW, four years later. Can excellence be boring? Because this almost feels like excellence being boring. Which is a shame, because that risks obscuring a game that wasn't afraid to be different: only Nintendo are mad to whisk Mario from Tim Burton's Hatpeopleville to a frozen desert to a realistic city to Pastelfoodvolcanoland. The worst thing about Odyssey is that Bowser's Fury wasn't DLC for it, because that would have provided a timely reminder of that anarchic spirit, rather than 'is it really better than BotW' again, four years later. Odyssey deserves that much.
Find out exactly how many votes the game that didn't come third got on Monday, probably. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Fri 11 Mar 2022 - 21:46 | |
| I'm going to be bold here and predict Mario Kart 8 has 5 votes meaning joint second in popularity but only has like 10 points as it was about 9th on most of the lists sent in. |
| | | OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 21:49 | |
| I simply cannot fathom not including BOTW in a Switch top 10 - unless you played it on WiiU |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 21:55 | |
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| | | OrangeRakoon Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sat 12 Mar 2022 - 21:56 | |
| Also to go back to earlier discussion - my WiiU lived in the living room of the house share I lived in at the time. The Switch didn't. Mario Kart 8 on WiiU got a LOT more play time with housemates than it did on Switch! |
| | | Muss Shiny Shuckle
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sun 13 Mar 2022 - 13:14 | |
| - Buskalilly wrote:
- To be fair, Muss, we played a shedload of the Wii U one in Wells.
Oh I remember. MK8 is my favourite Wii U game, closely followed by Splatoon. But it's also a game that lived a new life for me on Switch, where I've been able to play it with a lot more people than I ever did on the Wii U. I get that many of us owned the Wii U at times in our lives where local multiplayer was that much easier, and I can understand why some people wouldn't rank it here. But the thing with the Switch version for me is that it really does feel like that's where it is truly at home. I have played it in bed, on the tv, online, on a bus, the toilet, at me mum's, my girlfriend's, at friend's, and at work. It's a game that's helped make the system for me. A lot of people went crazy at the thought of playing Skyrim on the bog, but how many people actually did? Is it actually all that to play Witcher 3 or Splatoon anywhere except your living room, or in bed with the screen a few inches from your face? Maybe for a lot of people it is, but not for me. MK8:D is the manifestation of gaming's holy spirit, a gift to humankind that's there for you wherever you go as long as you're not in the sea. I think you could easily say the same thing about Odyssey, an incredibly charming game which I enjoyed exclusively on the TV but I'm sure I would have been just as happy in the handheld form. But that's kind of it for me. A vote on Switch games is also down to the way I use a Switch as much as the game itself. I've got all the consoles and a PC these days, and it's that which makes the portable nature of the Switch a much bigger deal for me than its stationary form. There aren't all that many games on it that tempt me into playing them on Switch rather than on something else, unless we're talking exclusives. Odyssey is one of those, and it's one that I'd happily play pretty much anywhere too. |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Mon 14 Mar 2022 - 17:33 | |
| The last gasp: here are all the other games that got votes. - Multiple votes each:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (3 votes, 11 points) “Best on Switch, and truly one of Nintendo’s greatest ever games. I don’t think there’s any argument that this is the greatest Mario Kart ever, am I right? I think this vote will prove that. That said, by taking this up to 96 courses by the end of 2023, the only thing left to remark is: how can Nintendo possibly improve on this perfection with Mario Kart 9?” “A shame that this is the only Mario Kart on the console and that little has changed since the Wii U, but it’s worth a shout out all the same. They nailed it and it still feels fresh” “As I've been writing my comments for each game on my list, I've found I've been talking a lot about how certain titles have really perfected the formula in their series, but I don't think that rings as true as it does for MK8D. I think the fact Nintendo aren't bothering with MK9 this generation and are instead opting to release a new suite of tracks exemplifies this. This is the Mario Kart formula refined to perfection.”
Pokémon Legends Arceus (3 votes, 11 points) “The shake up to the formula the series needed, gameplay is very addictive and much like Breath of the Wild I found myself getting easily distracted between tasks and getting lost in what Hisui had to offer. The best Pokémon game ever.” “Recency bias may be in effect here, but I'm honestly so happy to see some forward movement in regards to the Pokemon formula. Roaming about the world, catching creatures and just exploring to see what new beasties I could find was a treat. I'm glad they seem to be retaining this style for the next mainline games in the series.”
Untitled Goose Game (2 votes, 8 points) “It's crazy how an Australian developer perfectly captured a quiet British town, being a bastard Goose has never been so good, the use of music is als perfectly done.” “Strip aside the memes, and… no, wait, don’t. Because the memes were part of the full Untitled Goose Game experience, and the game shouldn’t be divorced from that. Rather, it should be praised for living up to the memes when it finally released. The horrible goose was as fun and funny to play as, as it had looked like it would be. That is some feat.”
- Every other game:
ARMS (1 point) “What I expected to be quite throwaway and a bit of a waggle-fest is actually one of the Switch’s richest and most underrated games. It’s much bolder, deeper and entertaining than it appeared at first, and it uses the JoyCons brilliantly. It improved a ton over time too, growing into a really well-rounded game. The version of ARMS that you might have traded in during the summer of 2017 is a lot different from the one you can play today.”
A Hat In Time (4) “Before I played A Hat In Time, I’d never played a 3D platformer that could be reasonably said to be better than any of the 3D Mario games, even the undercooked unimaginative one on 3DS. Now I have. Hat Kid’s adventure mixes the feel of Sunshine with the freedom of 64 and set-pieces that couldn’t have come out of either. A must-play for everyone here. (We do all love Mario, right?)”
Horizon Chase Turbo (2) “Capturing the speed, exhilaration and, crucially, the spirit of all of history’s greatest arcade racers, it’s an absolutely superb homage to a style of game that’s disappeared for far too long. The subsequent DLC truly elevates into the clouds. I’ll broadcast my love for Horizon Chase Turbo any time I can, and I’ll gladly parade its name through any conversation where I can get away with it."
The House in Fata Morgana: Dreams of the Revenants Edition (2) “In the fifth year of the Switch I played two games that I didn’t think I’d like, just because they were critically well received, that I really got on with. The other one was Hades, but when playing Hades my only tears were of frustration. THiFM is a piece of grim beauty.”
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition (1) “Another Wii U port that absolutely nailed it. I loved Hyrule Warriors both on Wii U and 3DS and this meshed the packages keeping you slaying with all your Zelda faves for infinite hours. The adventure mode is still peak Warriors as far as I’m concerned.”
Into the Breach (3) “A tactical masterpiece that is always satisfying to take a quick run through. Different squads to unlock and play as keep it feeling fresh and the gameplay is pure enough that you never feel cheated.”
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (2) “Imagine making the minions of gaming likeable, well that's what they managed to do here, not only was the gameplay fantastic but the soundtrack was a Kirkhope masterclass and the humour was surprisingly good."
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (7) “A big celebration of everything Monster Hunter, so much content, so much to do and the hunting arts were good fun. This will probably be replaced by Rise when Sunbreak hits, but I need that G rank hit.”
moon (4) “Every bit deserving of its reputation, this is a stone cold classic. If you have any interest in JRPGs and adventure games, get this played.”
NEO: The World Ends With You (6) “The best RPG battle system I’ve played, combined with immense style, enjoyable characters, and the coalescing of thirteen years’ thwarted hopes. Better than the original for me, this is even more what I was waiting for than I thought it would be.”
No More Heroes 3 (5) “Excellent combat, even better aesthetics, and the most videogame of videogames.”
River City Girls (1) “Some of my favourite pixel art ever. One of my favourite soundtracks ever. Excellent writing and voice acting. Oh, and the game is great fun in co-op too!”
Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin (3) “Nobody else here played this in the end, did they? That’s a bit of a crime. Charming farming and smooth satisfying action, combined in one lovely atmospheric package. The soundtrack’s low-key a banger too.”
Sonic Mania Plus (9) “It remains one of the most exciting, playable and uplifting games I’ve played. Treating the franchise with the respect and the quality assurance that it deserves, it’s a truly special game that should have been followed up by Sonic Mania 2, Sonic Mania 3 & Knuckles and Sonic Mania Spinball by now. That doesn’t seem like that’s happening, and that’s a disappointment that’s as crushing as it is utterly baffling. Still, as long as we’ve got Sonic Mania. I’m so glad that this even exists.”
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury (3) “Alone, Super Mario 3D World was one of the very best things on the Wii U. Yet with the gameplay’s speed boost and by simply being on a much better system, it feels like a whole new game. Boswer’s Fury is an excellent accompaniment, giving us an exciting glimpse into what’ll perhaps be the next direction for the Super Mario series. Paired together, this is one of the most adventurous, inventive, energising and bargainous Switch games yet.”
Tetris Effect: Connected (4) “Strangely positioned at seventh on my list, and far from the first (or even seventh) game I think about when I think about the Switch. But it’s just so damn close to perfection. Tetris is the undisputed don of puzzle games, and Effect: Connected is the most refined, addictive and enrapturing version of it there’s ever been.”
What The Golf? (1) “A solid framework built upon with endless innovation and no small amount of humour, I still can’t believe there are people here who don’t like this much. Just sheer gaming joy.”
Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition (1) “Better late to the party than never! To be fair, considering this version of the game cleaned up the admittedly ugly character models of the original and added some much needed quality of life improvements, I was right to wait. At its core though, it's still the same sweeping adventure you all loved back on Wii with a fun cast and a combat system that takes its time to sink its hooks into you but hooks you deeply once it clicks. I really ought to play the sequel sometime…" (You are correct. - Balla)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (5) “Wandering the plains of Gormott, drinking in the scale and soundtrack and dodging the level 81 monkey, is an incredible experience that sums up all that’s great about this game. Apart from Pyra’s [REDACTED]”
Florence, Gris, Metroid Dread, and Ori & the Blind Forest got one vote each but no comments. Bet you can't guess from whom.
- My thoughts:
Just quickly, on the top ten - it's interesting the most placements from any one year came from 2018, widely regarded as one of the Switch's weaker years; and the least (only the tenth spot) from 2021, which has a decent claim for being a stronger one. Of course that doesn't mean all that much (2017 had the two games that just happened to come overwhelmingly first and second), but I still thought it was noteworthy!
I predicted the top ten before this began, and I pretty much got it right - I didn't guess Hollow Knight or Link's Awakening, and instead guessed our two eleven-pointers. MK8D didn't place due to stuff we've already discussed ad nauseam, and PLA didn't place due to - being careful of recency bias, perhaps? A certain lack of polish? Being a great moment for the series that wasn't quite a great game? Or just not having played/completed it yet? Anyway, both missed out. Untitled Goose Game got most of its points (all but one in fact) from me giving it seven. I just think it's neat.
Then we have the rest. My only other big surprise is that Spla2n didn't get a single vote, whereas ARMS did (albeit literally a single vote and point). Moderately surprised about Dread getting just the one vote, but at the same time I reckon it would make a lot of top twenties but few top tens. If the MonHan Ultimate Generations vote had gone to Rise instead it would have come fifth.
I get this vote's hipster award, with none of my picks for 5-10 getting a single other vote. I reckon that would've been the same even if everyone voted, frankly: my taste is very different from the rest of the forum, bar Rum on a forgiving day, and I've grown to accept that (apart from where What The Golf? is concerned) (also play NEO TWEWY) (okay maybe I haven't accepted it so well yet). Runner-up prize goes to Cappa, for being the only person to pick a podium-placer that nobody else voted for. Apparently we're all big Putin fans. (NB: We are not all big Putin fans.)
Finally: just a really big handshake and vote of thanks to The Cappuccino Kid for his enthusiastic (I hope?) participation in this award. He followed up two laugh-out-loud gaming votes for 2021 with a comprehensive set of comments and, crucially, mentions in this one. Does it even need to be said that they were entertaining to read? Well, I'm saying it anyway. Massive cheers for that boss!
Thanks too to all the rest of you who voted, you're all champs. Balla Voting Season is officially closed until late 2023. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Mon 14 Mar 2022 - 17:40 | |
| I close with MK8 guess, also shocked about Metroid Dread. |
| | | Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Tue 15 Mar 2022 - 8:50 | |
| I played Sakuna, it was alright, it wasn't as good as a Rune Factory.
A Hat in Time is one of the worst 3D platformers I've ever played, albeit I do try and avoid bad 3D platformers, but I'd rather play Banjo, Yooka Laylee, Shadow the Hedgehog or some shite than that.
Dread was fine, but it wasn't top tier was it now? A bit of a breeze to get through and lacks and real impact, decent combat, but nothing that's gonna stick in the memory. |
| | | masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Tue 15 Mar 2022 - 9:48 | |
| It was my GOTY last year, that either shows how good the game is as I've never liked Metroid or how bad last year was for games imo.
Then Dread makes my Top 10 Switch games, again go back look at my Top 30, is it only so high because what else I've played on Switch with stuff like Rime in the Top 30. As not sure where I'd place Dread, if it was lets say a Wii U game as I'd certainly have MK8, Bayonetta 2, 3D World etc all above it. |
| | | The_Jaster Din
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Tue 15 Mar 2022 - 20:06 | |
| I loved Metroid Dread but had I voted not sure if it would be in my top 10 either (it might sneak in) but that's testament to how many great games Switch has in its library. |
| | | The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Tue 15 Mar 2022 - 22:49 | |
| Metroid Dread didn’t cross my mind once when I was thinking about my favourite and top Switch games. “Nothing that’s gonna stick in the memory” sound about right, although I enjoyed it well enough when I was playing it through. It would maybe scrape into my top fifty.
Even Vladimir Putin would find those views on A Hat In Time to be too extreme.
Voting season over until late 2023? I thought someone would do something big early next year, marking a decade since we migrated from the old NGamer Forums onto here? Was that not mentioned before? |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Wed 16 Mar 2022 - 20:38 | |
| - Crumpy Andy wrote:
- I played Sakuna, it was alright, it wasn't as good as a Rune Factory.
A Hat in Time is one of the worst 3D platformers I've ever played, albeit I do try and avoid bad 3D platformers, but I'd rather play Banjo, Yooka Laylee, Shadow the Hedgehog or some shite than that.
Dread was fine, but it wasn't top tier was it now? A bit of a breeze to get through and lacks and real impact, decent combat, but nothing that's gonna stick in the memory. I've not played Rune Factory yet (hope to later this year), but are they comparable? Sure there's the division of farming/fighting, but the fighting is more Muramasa-y than RPG-y. Never mind that though: what on earth evidence do you have for that A Hat In Time slander? It's one of those viewpoints I just can't understand, certainly not without reading the justification. I'm sure Jim would agree with myself and Cappa, as would... well, I'd hope anybody else who played the game. Dread was very good, better than you give it credit for and some of the bosses definitely aren't a breeze - but not quite top-tier, no. - The Cappuccino Kid wrote:
- Voting season over until late 2023? I thought someone would do something big early next year, marking a decade since we migrated from the old NGamer Forums onto here? Was that not mentioned before?
I would hope nobody's expecting me to run that. I've seen enough voting spreadsheets to last me a decade! |
| | | Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Thu 17 Mar 2022 - 7:29 | |
| Yeah I'd say RF plays very similar, the only difference is perspective, but I'd argue that the general vibe of going into dungeons, gathering, harvesting is close enough to warrant it. I found the biggest thing with Sakuna was the rice farming was often leaning more on tedious than fun, especially planting. It's good though, I should go back and get the plat, but you have to grow like every version of rice which is bad Hat in Time was just not fun, the worlds felt tedious to get around, the levels lacked anything interesting to them and when they tried to do something interesting, like the murder mystery, it was a chore to play. All that before I mention it chugs along so badly that it genuinely made me feel ill at times. I was so excited to play it after seeing all of your positive vibes, but man I've not hated a game so much in a long time. |
| | | Rum Disciple of Greener
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Thu 17 Mar 2022 - 18:34 | |
| Ill?! What a sensitive sausage. |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sun 20 Mar 2022 - 11:53 | |
| - Crumpy Andy wrote:
- Yeah I'd say RF plays very similar, the only difference is perspective, but I'd argue that the general vibe of going into dungeons, gathering, harvesting is close enough to warrant it. I found the biggest thing with Sakuna was the rice farming was often leaning more on tedious than fun, especially planting. It's good though, I should go back and get the plat, but you have to grow like every version of rice which is bad
Hat in Time was just not fun, the worlds felt tedious to get around, the levels lacked anything interesting to them and when they tried to do something interesting, like the murder mystery, it was a chore to play. All that before I mention it chugs along so badly that it genuinely made me feel ill at times. I was so excited to play it after seeing all of your positive vibes, but man I've not hated a game so much in a long time. Honestly I can't disagree that the farming's a bit dull. I just... found it cathartic, y'know? But I'm not going to slam anybody who disagrees. That's why I've been a little tentative recommending Sakuna. That said, if you enjoyed it until you started achievement hunting and then the achievements made it worse for you, that's your fault or the achievements' fault and not the game's, surely! Don't think it deserves marks knocked off for that. As for your views in AHiT... nah that's not the game I played. I never felt it was a chore, Hat Kid's movement was fine if not great, and as for chugging? I played the game on Switch and didn't have any chugging problems. The level design is maybe not quite Mario Odyssey levels but 'lacking anything interesting' is a spicy take and a half. I'm afraid your reasoning has only made me more confused! Global announcement status rescinded, topic left to float downstream. I'll put it in the Switch sub-forum, it feels like more of a Switch thread now. |
| | | Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
Posts : 4921 Points : 4933 Join date : 2013-01-15 Age : 32 Location : The South
| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sun 20 Mar 2022 - 11:58 | |
| I more meant I didn't enjoy the farming that much throughout the game, it's actively putting me off achievement hunting |
| | | Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sun 20 Mar 2022 - 12:10 | |
| Oh man, if the DLC had come out a little earlier Mario Kart 8 would have cleaned up! |
| | | Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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| Subject: Re: The GNamer Forum Awards 2021 and Five Years of Switch (Thanks For Voting!) Sun 20 Mar 2022 - 12:16 | |
| Ah ha, yes, absolutely, that would have been great! |
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