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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 18:34
But you can play the XBONE versions with the battletoads stage which I hear is awesome.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 18:39
There's no way I'll get round to finishing it on a home console.
JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 19:34
I think it'd be brilliant on 3DS. I didn't find myself playing more than a couple of stages at a time - it's perfect to enjoy in bite sized chunks.
Also, I'd forgotten how much I like Balla's voting thread format. The celeb guest sections (what a start, by the way!) are always a treat to read.
ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 20:04
Drunkalilly wrote:
It's on 3DS as well, right? Might get it there once that's fixed.
Retail or download? Either way, it's a lovely game that all of y'all should at least sample in some way.
Also, permission to guess who our Three Wise Men are, Balla?
Guesses:
Andyma-whoops, Crumpy Andy! - Jaster and ZeroJones?
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 22:26
You can guess - I just won't tell you if you're right!
Also thanks to you and Jay for your comments on the formatting. You may have noticed that I've added in some sparkles of Zero to the mix. Good to know you're enjoying it at this early stage!
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Wed 16 Dec 2015 - 23:42
JayMoyles wrote:
I think it'd be brilliant on 3DS. I didn't find myself playing more than a couple of stages at a time - it's perfect to enjoy in bite sized chunks.
I agree with you on the bite sized chunks & playing it a few stages at a time, I went for it on wii U though for the superior D-pad. Doesn't matter where you experience it though just get it played.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Thu 17 Dec 2015 - 8:28
Ninth Place
Ninth Place:
Super Mario 3D World (29 points, 5 voters, 0 firsts)
(Super Mario 3D World also wins the Best Game Where We Want a Proper One Next Time Award.)
Trailer: It's-a meow!
Music: Sprawling Savannah (i.e. the only one worthy of note)
Weird Video: The Cat Mario Show! Where we find out why Mario and Peach should never be fully voice-acted.
Metacritic: 93%
You Said:
"A very good 2D Mario game. Plenty of interesting level designs (Hands-On Hall), challenging, and Cat Mario’s great. 3D? Look mate, just because Mario can run into the screen, doesn’t make this a 3D Mario. I’ve seen Game & Watch games that feel more 3D than this. Also, Captain Toad."
"It wasn't the Mario we wanted, but it was still a very fun Mario game."
"Stunning to look at and excellent fun. A true testament to the Wii U’s power and Nintendo EAD’s consistent brilliance."
"Super Mario Maker is the best thing to happen to 2D Mario for a long time; however I’d say this 3D game trumps it. It may not have the revolutionary concept of the Galaxy games, but it still has originality like no-one’s business. World numbers are just arbitrary points sectioned off by bosses; themed “Worlds” are chucked out the window, so that every level can concentrate on being a unique moment in gaming history. Marvellous. Also cats."
"The slow move from Sunshine's world, to Galaxy's mad spaces to 3D World's msotly abstract levels is slightly disappointing, but the simple truth is that when you've got controller in hand during a 3D Mario, there's no better feeling in games. This absolutely delivers; fun levels to muck around in all the way up to the devilishly tricky finale, every level throws something new at you. It might be a tiny little detail or it might be the kind of mechanic other developers would use to fill a whole game, but SM3DW's never dull."
I Said:
Too low, some might cry. I disagree: I think SM3DW is exactly where it should be in the rankings. I was absolutely gutted on finding out that the Wii U's 3D Mario would, in fact, be more 2.5D; the number of people voting for a proper 3D Mario in the wished-for vote speaks bundles.
But there's no denying that Nintendo EAD's still got it. Watching that trailer reminded me of so many of the great things about this game (and Boom Boom). Whether it was flouncing around as Cat Mario, negotiating four Peaches carefully to the finish line, riding in a giant ice skate, or taking Captain Toad around one of his levels before it was cool (or at least, before it became its own game - sorry Captain, you'll never be "cool"), there was rarely a dull moment in SM3DW's library.
A tour de force, then; but that force hasn't quite awakened yet. (Look, I did a Star Wars joke!)
They Said:
Celebrity Guest Grumpy Cat
"See them. Running. Freely. Doubling up. Throwing fire. Making. A mockery. Of my species. With their fursuits and their mewling.
"Let them run. Their day of reckoning approaches. Bowser: his methods are crude. The flashy car. The fireballs. The incredibly offensive cat features. Mine are more. Subtle. I have the Internet in my paws. If I say jump. They jump. If I say squee. They squee. And if I say kill, and leave the pieces for me to mix into my Whiskers. Well.
"The next 'Super Bell'. That Mario. Or his little friends. Will hear. Will ring. At their funerals."
The Cappuccino Kid Mani Mani Statue
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Thu 17 Dec 2015 - 10:24
That's the best tune on any Wii U game.
That's definitely too low. There aren't eight games on Wii U that are better than Super Mario 3D World.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Thu 17 Dec 2015 - 14:39
I notice it doesn't have any firsts, and I wonder if that's what kept it at the bottom of the list. A lot of people voted it for it but it isn't anyone's favourite game.
masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Thu 17 Dec 2015 - 14:42
Only half of us voted for it, I reckon something like Pikmin 3 will place high again as I can see it being in most people's top 10s.
ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Thu 17 Dec 2015 - 21:46
I didn't vote for SM3DW. It would have made a top fifteen, but the taste it left in my mouth was one of disappointment. To be fair, I don't begrudge it its place - I've just played better on the Wii U.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 7:25
Eighth Place
Eighth Place:
Rayman Legends (31 points, 6 voters, 0 firsts)
(Rayman Legends also wins the Best Rhythm Game on the Wii U Award.)
Trailer: ARRIVAAAAAAAAA!
Music: It's the EYE of the Tiger!
Weird Video: "Epic trailer"? Nope, just weird. Especially Rayman being squeaked.
Metacritic: 92%
You Said:
"Best 2D Platformer on the Wii U"
"Gloo gloo, gloo gloo glooooooo. Whoa-oa bi-ba, bam-ba-lamb. And some other levels too. Apart from Murfy’s nonsense, this is great. I haven’t forgotten the release date debacle though, UbiSoft! "
"It’s energy and enthusiasm makes it stand out. Dangerously close to the best in the genre - Ubisoft Montpellier might have developed a platformer that cannot be bettered."
"Rayman came back in style, all the fun of origins, but turned up to 11. The music stages were pure genius"
"The controversy over the game being delayed may have done it good that we players will never be able to measure. What is certain is that this is the finest slice of 2D platforming for a very long time. It even eclipses Origins, its mighty fine predecessor; playing Origins levels in Legends feels like a massive chore as they are so long compared to the snippets of great design that are native to its progeny. Just a delight: the only problem is that it doesn't last long enough."
I Said:
First things first: Origins can get stuffed. "All the fun"? "Mighty fine"? Naaaaah. Origins' horrendous aesthetics and music, mediocre level design, and poorly paced platforming led to me abandoning it shortly after the first world, and I didn't enjoy that much.
So I went into this filled with trepidation, and I was blown away. Rayman slips through the beautifully scored levels as slickly as a greased-up seal on the ice, bounding, swimming, punching, hovering (those bits were a bit meh). The platforming wasn't Mario, it was a faster slicker beast than that, but that worked just fine. And the music levels! Dear God the music levels.
I didn't finish it properly, because getting all the medals required to do so required playing the dire Origins levels or the Challenge ones, the latter being just too hard for me. And what was left was short. Nonetheless, to go from one of the worst 2D platformers on the Wii to one of the best on the Wii U (the only genre the console's heaving with) in a single game is quite a feat.
They Said:
Celebrity Guest Maximilien Robespierre
"Formidable! This game displays the very best virtues of the Republican French Republic of France: standing up to toad-faced oppresseurs, and ruthlessly executing them. Terror and virtue are the keys to any révolution, and Rayman inspires terror in 'is enemies, merely by showing up with 'is 'ideously deformed visage. Virtue, now, I'm not so certain about - all those scantily clad princesses. I 'ate royalty, but they can get off with my 'ead any time, if you kneauw what I mean.
"Murfy, on the other 'and, must be swiftly decapitated. No 'uman being, or mutated greenfly, should 'old so much power over a populace, or indeed a level. Fetch the guillotine! And while you're at it, chop off Globox's podgy legs - I'm 'ungry."
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 7:40
Another side scroller I've been meaning to play but not got around to. In this case, I even have the game on my xbox, so I ought to do it...
ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 7:49
Yeah, it's alright (my second place and, bizarrely, the only game I've played on the PS4). Also, we do like a bit of platform here at GNamer, don't we? So far, at least...
Crumpy Andy Zeta Metroid
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 11:35
Quite surprised that 3D World is that low, I think that's about where it belongs but I'm now very excited about what the higher games are as I don't see everyone agreeing with my top 8 (and SK has already been eliminated).
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 12:53
We do seem to be on course for an all platformer top 10.
I need to get around to playing the recent Rayman platformers - I've had them sitting in my Steam account for yonks.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 12:56
Which would be representative of the console's output, to be fair!
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 13:21
Balladeer wrote:
First things first: Origins can get stuffed. "All the fun"? "Mighty fine"? Naaaaah. Origins' horrendous aesthetics and music, mediocre level design, and poorly paced platforming led to me abandoning it shortly after the first world, and I didn't enjoy that much.
So I went into this filled with trepidation, and I was blown away. Rayman slips through the beautifully scored levels as slickly as a greased-up seal on the ice, bounding, swimming, punching, hovering (those bits were a bit meh). The platforming wasn't Mario, it was a faster slicker beast than that, but that worked just fine. And the music levels! Dear God the music levels.
I didn't finish it properly, because getting all the medals required to do so required playing the dire Origins levels or the Challenge ones, the latter being just too hard for me. And what was left was short. Nonetheless, to go from one of the worst 2D platformers on the Wii to one of the best on the Wii U (the only genre the console's heaving with) in a single game is quite a feat.
Origins is a gem of a game and arguably superior to Legends. How can you criticise the game's level design and pacing when you only played the first world? If anything, Origins has better paced levels as there's none of the stop-start touch-screen stuff that Legends has. Legends is more of the same, in a more polished package, but I guess there's the chance you're going from the worst version of Origins (Wii) to the best version of Legends (Wii-U) in which case some of these tweaks may be more noticeable.
But to say Origins is one of the worst 2D platformers on the Wii is madness. It's arguably the best 2D platformer on the system, particularly as it nailed "jump-in/jump-out" multiplayer better than New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Donkey Kong Country: Returns. Pretty sure NGamer confirmed this in their review too.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 13:48
I'm slowly learning that Balla has terrible taste
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 14:05
RUDE! At least put a tongue emoticon in there!
If the pacing was bad enough to put me off in the first world, I'm not sure it should matter whether the rest of the game improves it miraculously. I'm not someone who'll put my hand through razor wire to grab diamonds when there are other diamonds just lying about.
As for "one of the worst on the Wii", yes I was exaggerating, but it's far from the best. It's better than NSMBWii (as is Ninjabread Man, probably), but not as good as DKCR or KEY in my opinion, or the forum's. Although I did almost finish NSMBWii... As for drop-in drop-out, the console had a myriad of better multiplayer games. I judged the game on its single-player alone and was disappointed, especially given the way people talked it up.
Also where were your votes, GJones?
EDIT: Going back to the Big Wii Voting Thread, my thinking on Origins sounds like it was more focussed on the terrible aesthetics than the pacing, so maybe the latter's not as bad as I remember it being. I still maintain that Legends improved on it massively, as did at least one other voter.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 14:24
Balladeer wrote:
RUDE! At least put a tongue emoticon in there!
If the pacing was bad enough to put me off in the first world, I'm not sure it should matter whether the rest of the game improves it miraculously. I'm not someone who'll put my hand through razor wire to grab diamonds when there are other diamonds just lying about.
As for "one of the worst on the Wii", yes I was exaggerating, but it's far from the best. It's better than NSMBWii (as is Ninjabread Man, probably), but not as good as DKCR or KEY in my opinion, or the forum's. Although I did almost finish NSMBWii... As for drop-in drop-out, the console had a myriad of better multiplayer games. I judged the game on its single-player alone and was disappointed, especially given the way people talked it up.
Also where were your votes, GJones?
EDIT: Going back to the Big Wii Voting Thread, my thinking on Origins sounds like it was more focussed on the terrible aesthetics than the pacing, so maybe the latter's not as bad as I remember it being. I still maintain that Legends improved on it massively, as did at least one other voter.
I've overlooked the Wii-U threads since I no longer own one
Personally, I'd put Origins over Epic Yarn and DKCR but that's only because I completed Origins and saw more of it than the other two. DKCR became infuriating in the end and Epic Yarn I've not played enough of to really judge it yet.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 14:28
Jay's never owned one, didn't stop him (in the earlier votes)! (puts Jay up on pedestal)
I liked DKCR's difficulty, much though it made me swear. Never felt unfair, apart from when I'd accidentally roll into the abyss (or fail to roll when I needed to). Problems the sequel fixed, thankfully. Jimbob will back me up on this.
KEY's adorable, get it played.
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 16:30
Seventh Place
Seventh Place:
Bayonetta 2 (32 points, 5 voters, 2 firsts)
(Bayonetta 2 also wins the Marmite Award.)
Trailer: Loki, please shut up.
Music: WIIIIIIIDER THAN A MILE!
Weird Video: Seasonally appropriate cut-scene. The game's weird enough without me going looking for other sources.
Metacritic: 91%
You Said:
"A sequel that improves on the brilliant original in almost every way. Get rid of Loki and it's a perfect game."
"Lightning struck twice; this is at least as good as the legendary original. Something – and I’m not sure what - stops me from going back to it though, hence it being right at the arse-end of my list."
"Look, I'm not sure which to choose. If only one of them is in the runnings for the top ten, put my second place vote to that one. If they're both involved, either give them equal points or shunt Bayo 2. [And only Bayo 2 was in the running, soooo...] Despite starting life on the Xbox 360, and being a little more risque than the usual Nintendo heroine, Bayonetta feels like she was born for Wii U. A character, a world and a game all built around a fun gameplay style first and foremost. Every level finds new and mesmerising ways to show off Bayonetta's, and by extension the player's, skills. Combine all this with a mad but strangely touching story, mind-blowing visuals, wonderful sound and a great sense of humour and you can see why Hideki Kamiya is a man worth buying the Xbox One for. If nothing else, the Wii U should be remembered as the machine that made Bayonetta 2 possible."
"My GOTY last year and nothing since come out has been this good or close to perfection on the Wii U"
I Said:
Ah, Bayo 2. You either love it or you... are relatively indifferent to it. Two firsts, one second, one ninth, one tenth. Nothing in the middle. Quite the spread.
I'm sure, absolutely certain, that Bayo 2 is a grand game if you're into "kill all the dudes" genre, which I am not. Despite the many and varied enemy types, it's no good if they all fight pretty much the same. To be fair, I only ever got to the early stages of Bayo 1, but unless the sequel is an absolutely meteoric improvement, it's not going to be for me.
That doesn't mean I can't appreciate it though! The spectacle, the bad-enough-to-be-good plot and cut-scenes (kid aside), Bayo herself - yeah, I can see why this would be fun when you come back from a night down the pub. And at least three of you felt strongly enough to put it here. Not to mention that it's great to see such an un-Nintendo game make the Wii U top seven. A worthy placing indeed.
They Said:
Celebrity Guest Gabriel
"Fucking disgusting."
JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 16:42
Platinum are the masters of the spectacle fighter genre, and Bayo's probably their best work from that genre. It should be placed on a pedestal as an example of how to properly do that genre - more heroines like Bayo and fewer edgelords like Dante, thank you!
gjones Disciple of Scullion
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Subject: Re: The Chuffing Mental Third Anniversary Wii U Voting Thread: Thanks For Playing! Fri 18 Dec 2015 - 17:05
Interesting. I love the Bayonetta series although can see why some don't get on with it.
Having looked at the games ranked 7 to 10 though, I noticed Balla isn't positive about any of them! What games do you like??
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