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Subject: Re: News thread Fri 28 Aug 2015 - 1:34
Wouldn't expect anything less from Britain's shittiest shitrag of a paper.
If you haven't watched the shooter's POV video then I suggest you never do. I unfortunately did see it and wish I hadn't. Whilst it isn't overly graphic it is horrifying on a psychological level and genuinely upsetting.
Fuckin' America, man, when they going to sort their shit out.
Muss Shiny Shuckle
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Subject: Re: News thread Fri 28 Aug 2015 - 11:22
The media could won't learn from this.
Also, allegedly the killer was somewhat inspired by previous shootings garnering so much coverage, something in his rambling memo.
Rum Disciple of Greener
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Subject: Re: News thread Sun 30 Aug 2015 - 21:15
Olivers Sacks died today, which is sad. If you haven't read any of his books then I can recommend them. They can be a little jargon-y (and I say this having done a psychology degree...) but the content is always very interesting, and he comes across as very personable in all of his case studies. Good place to learn about some really interesting brain shiz.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: News thread Sun 30 Aug 2015 - 21:18
Richard Dawkins said nice things about him - he must be god!
Sorry, must be good. Bit of a difference. I'm on the lookout for things to read, so it's good to have a recommendation.
Rum Disciple of Greener
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Subject: Re: News thread Sun 30 Aug 2015 - 21:21
You might like Musicophilia, Balla, what with you being a musicophile yourself. It's full of weird neurological phenomena that different folk have experienced regarding music - its relationship to Alzheimers, its links to memories, that kind of thing.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: News thread Sun 30 Aug 2015 - 21:25
Ooh, sounds good! I do like sciencey books, and I haven't read many since the aforementioned troll biologist's earlier stuff.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 31 Aug 2015 - 16:06
DoPo: Kanye Bloody West has decided to run for president. And he's still not the worst candidate out of the bunch.
Not for those with weak stomachs:
JayMoyles Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 31 Aug 2015 - 18:03
He's running in 2020 though, apparently... which means we could have Trump in 2016 and Kanye in 2020.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 31 Aug 2015 - 19:33
Im all for YEEZY 2020
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: News thread Sat 12 Sep 2015 - 12:26
Jeremy Corbyn didn't just win the Labour leadership vote: he smashed it.
Even including the Conservatives who apparently registered to vote for him as a no-hoper, that's massive.
ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
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Subject: Re: News thread Sat 12 Sep 2015 - 12:30
Hopefully Corbs will shake the establishment up a bit, if nothing else. I remember the 'placeholder' Tory Party leaders whilst they waited for David Cameron to emerge from his gestation pod - it might well be the Labour Party's turn to have some of them post-Blair.
Whatever you think of Blair, he did at least win elections...
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 14 Sep 2015 - 8:09
I am so behind Jeremy Corbyn, to the point that I actually now want to join the Labour party. I don't really know what I'll be able to do, but I feel a need to be involved. He's someone who actually stands on policy and reason, rather than basically turning into a Tories Lite to try and get voted in. I haven't actually found myself disagree with the man yet.
Speaking of Labor, I never thought I'd see the Australian Liberals at each others throats like Australia Labor were. We've got another Prime Minister assassination attempt here down under, Kami-Sama Malcom Turnbull has finally taken action to try and dethrone Suppository of All Wisdom Tony Abbott and moved for a leadership spill that'll be going down in the next two hours. I'm glued to the tv right now. Maybe, just maybe we'll have a competent leader tomorrow, one who doesn't have moronic views about climate change and, shockingly, supports marriage equality.
Nah, that's too intelligent for this right wing mob of lunies, we'll have Scott Morrison instead or they'll choose to stick with the current captain while the titanic is on course to hit an ice berg. Still, it's great fun seeing the party at its own throat! And with the teeny tiny chance we'll get a good leader out of it, bargain.
OMG THE VOTES ARE IN!!
YES! YES!! YEESSSSSS!!!! There is a god! Abbott is GONE! Australia has a competent leader!
So, for those with no idea what's really happened, I'll run down events.
The history:
Tony Abbott's reign has been dogged the entire duration with own goals and constant gaffs, some bigger than others, all ultimately destabilizing him over time.
To give people an idea of what Abbott was like from a policy perspective, this is the man who tried in his first budget to put a reform through requiring every single patient seeing a GP to pay a levy of seven dollars on top of any and all expenses. This and many other measures like it saw the Senate, where the balance of power is held by independents right now, knock back the entire first budget.
His first year was from then on trying to pass the budget bit by bit, things like the GP co-payment scheme were ultimately thrown in the trash (where they belong).
His second budget saw him go in to full placation mode, passing a budget much like what would be seen from an election budget. Plenty of cash and injections and tax breaks and relatively little to ruffle feathers.
This was a terrible move, as he literally campaigned and won an election on a "budget emergency", fooling the public in to believing we were going to dive off a cliff and in a decade reach Greece levels of debt. Obviously a pack of absolute bull turd, but the public mostly bought it up and threw the "fiscally irresponsible" Labour government out. Then he passed a budget that would see the deficit increase and not even begin to steer it back to surplus.
The "budget emergency" lay in tatters, a flimsy excuse that only existed when the government wanted it to.
Meanwhile in February soon after he gave Prince Philip an Australian Knighthood the public backlash saw a revolt from the back bench, and a motion for a leadership spill put to the party room. This motion was defeated, but the score showed there was severe discontent and division in the party.
That leads us to today. Abbott has managed to regain traction on several occasions since then, then proceeded to score own goals that nullified those successes. For every moment like the intake of 12'000 extra immigrants from Syria he kicked an own goal with his antics like blocking marriage equality (or laughing at an immigration minister cracking a funny about poor countries going underwater because of climate change).
It was expected that next weekends canning by-election which is expected to swing heavily against the Libs would see some sort of leadership issue come to ahead again. Instead Malcom Turnbull, the man Abbott himself took leadership of the party back in opposition from (winning by a single vote I might add) in a moment of poetic justice threw his cards on the table and called a leadership spill. In a speech that was one of the most blunt "front stabbing" you'll ever see in politics. No sugar in the speech, just that Abbott is a terrible leader and if they want to stop Labour Leader Bill Shorten from winning next election he's their man.
Fast forward to now, he's won 54 votes to 44. Safe to say there will be a lot of blood letting over this one as Turnbull iis pretty despised by the right of the party. But hey, I'll take a PM I'd actually vote for when I can get one! It's taken over seven years, but he's finally here.
Also, fun fact: this is the third knifing of a Prime Minister during their first proper term in office in as many terms. God I love Australian politics, so damn insane.
Balladeer DIVINE LONELINESS
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 14 Sep 2015 - 13:26
Worldwide change, huh. Apparently Turnbull is less than popular with his own party for actually believing in climate change and supporting gay marriage. Sounds good to me!
Drunkalilly wrote:
I don't really know what I'll be able to do, but I feel a need to be involved. He's someone who actually stands on policy and reason, rather than basically turning into a Tories Lite to try and get voted in.
Pretty much this. Although I did snip out other parts - Corbs does seem a little too Putin-friendly for my liking. But somebody who finally sees the sense of scrapping Trident? Gerrimin!
Mind you, the new defence secretary is pro-Trident.
Worldwide change, huh. Apparently Turnbull is less than popular with his own party for actually believing in climate change and supporting gay marriage. Sounds good to me!
Yes, I know, Australia has another PM knifed in the back during his first term in office, as earth shattering as the sky being blue.
I wouldn't get too happy about the former just yet though, I suspect part of the bargain he made with the conservatives he clearly won over was that he wouldn't change the current liberal policy on the matter of climate change, which would mean a continuation of the blegh "direct action" nonsense.
As for gay marriage, he supports it but I wouldn't count on him rocking the boat on that one just yet either, maybe once he's won an election and solidified his position as leader he might take some action though. Could be wrong though, he was pretty openly defiant about it a few months back and you can bet Labour will try and use it next year so he might do something to remove it from play.
One last thing, I dunno whether it's just a placebo but after hearing the press conference I can't help but feel like a dark cloud has started moving on. That maybe, just maybe, this country can start moving forward again after stagnating for the last few years. The tones of the conference were pretty optimistic, and the narrative was refreshing. Gone was the militaristic "national security" emphasis Abbott flogged and in was talk of optimistic matters. A big tonal change from the get go, and one that feels very refreshing and enlivening.
masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 14 Sep 2015 - 18:07
Corbyn so left wing he puts all men in charge of the shadow cabinet.
ZeroJones I'M SO LONELY
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 14 Sep 2015 - 19:12
masofdas wrote:
Corbyn so left wing he puts all men in charge of the shadow cabinet.
Yeah, not totally happy with the top 4 jobs going to men... although I do understand that majority of the shadow ministers are women. That's a slight silver lining...
...whereas in Australia the cloud is all silver lining! Good work, all.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: News thread Mon 14 Sep 2015 - 19:52
Balladeer wrote:
- Corbs does seem a little too Putin-friendly for my liking.
I'm not sure "maybe the best response isn't violence" is the same as "friendly"...
masofdas wrote:
Corbyn so left wing he puts all men in charge of the shadow cabinet.
Corbyn has a 50/50 split cabinet compared to Camerons 20/80. He also has created new, important positions on the cabinet, some of which are women. He has done nothing wrong, and I'd certainly rather a male Corbynite than Teresa fucking May, but the newspapers and the Tories are terrified he might finally start to impact the horrible imbalance in this country so they will take every possible opportunity to insult him.
masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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Subject: Re: News thread Tue 15 Sep 2015 - 7:23
Okay but what about LGBT then for someone that is meant to be so left wing, why isn't Ben Bradshaw on the shadow cabinet for instance.
Buskalilly Galactic Nova
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Subject: Re: News thread Tue 15 Sep 2015 - 7:25
What are his qualifications for being on the cabinet? Which position do you want him in?
masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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Subject: Re: News thread Tue 15 Sep 2015 - 7:34
He's done various roles before included when Labour was in government and was up for deputy leader.
Looking though Culture would be the one I put him in.
Corbyn has a 50/50 split cabinet compared to Camerons 20/80. He also has created new, important positions on the cabinet, some of which are women. He has done nothing wrong, and I'd certainly rather a male Corbynite than Teresa fucking May, but the newspapers and the Tories are terrified he might finally start to impact the horrible imbalance in this country so they will take every possible opportunity to insult him.
Wouldn't surprise me if it works either. The problem with being too far on one side or the other in politics is that even if reform is necessary you're more likely to put people off side. Plus, while I naturally don't have much of a grasp of English politics beyond the few stories that make it over here and the second hand stories passed from my mother it looks like England is a bit conservative, so I'm not all that sure how well being extremely left wing will go.
I've no doubt some reforms are necessary over there as things sound even harsher than when my mother was forced to move back to Australia, but I'm not sure how well championing that sort of thing will go over with the public. It wouldn't get someone very far over here and we're pretty relaxed.
Oh, and a small update on the new PM. Climate change policy will stay the same, as will the current position on marriage equality. To clarify on the latter, the Coalition a few months back came to the decision to hold a plebiscite some time after the next election (due January 2017 at the absolute latest, so likely this time next year).
So, climate change and marriage equality will remain the same for the foreseeable future. I'm sure there will be people disappointed by that, personally I understand this was necessary. Right now he holds the position of PM purely as a gift of the party itself, and given what the party stance on the matters is until he's built up some capital his hands are tied and I, personally, am willing to let the matter slide. Besides, I'm sure that when the plebiscite is held it will be done fairly, which is something one couldn't say about Abbott's handling of the matter.
Just thought I'd mention those for some who might be mildly curious about what our new leader is planning.
Dead Lemon FMK Tagline
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Subject: Re: News thread Tue 15 Sep 2015 - 22:26
The Corbyn hate from (some sections) of the media is a bit pathetic.
So what if the top jobs didn't go to women. I don't know the exact reasons of qualifications held by those that got the jobs but i'd hope they got the jobs because they were seen as most suited. Giving top jobs to women just to make a point wouldn't be right.
And today I see the media having a go because he failed to sing the National Anthem. Christ, get a grip..
Jimbob Bargain Hunter
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Subject: Re: News thread Tue 15 Sep 2015 - 23:03
Every clip I've seen of Jeremy Corbyn being interviewed since becoming Labour Leader is of a news reporter attempting to ask him an "edgy" question to try to trip him up; he got asked why he was at the Battle of Britain memorial today, the reporter suggesting he might think it was "too formal". However (and this is the point of his popularity) he gives short logical answers to bullshit questions. Meanwhile David Cameron (and, don't get me wrong, the last few leaders of the other major parties too) is allowed to answer in spin-doctored nonsense. The only other person who has the courage to say what he thinks is Nigel Farage. The difference there is that Farage's comments are often negative and/or hateful.
masofdas The Next Miyamoto
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Subject: Re: News thread Wed 16 Sep 2015 - 9:10
Dead Lemon wrote:
The Corbyn hate from (some sections) of the media is a bit pathetic.
So what if the top jobs didn't go to women. I don't know the exact reasons of qualifications held by those that got the jobs but i'd hope they got the jobs because they were seen as most suited. Giving top jobs to women just to make a point wouldn't be right.
And today I see the media having a go because he failed to sing the National Anthem. Christ, get a grip..
God save our gracious Queen Long live our noble Queen God save the Queen Send her victorious Happy and glorious Long to reign over us God save the Queen